Tolkien Gateway talk:Meetings/5 April 2009

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Please put any ideas for the agenda and any general discussion here. Remember you must sign your name below if you are going to attend.

==Attendees==
#--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 12:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
# -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 12:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
# --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 02:16, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
#--[[User:Mith|Mith]] 09:46, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
#--[[User:Quidon88|Quidon88]] 2 April 2009 (UTC)
#--[[User:Eldarion Telcontar|Eldarion Telcontar]] 13:56, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
#--[[User:Sage|Sage]] 16:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

==Ideas for Agenda==
* Should ''[[Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings]]'' be renamed into ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy]]'', and the three parts also by their official title? By extension, should this also be applied to [[Rankin/Bass]]' films and ''[[Ralph Bakshi's The Lord of the Rings]]''? Since games have all been renamed, but movies not (yet). -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 12:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
* Images - a rediscussion of fair use and unknown artists. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
* Make sure that members (at least the meeting attendees) have 'E-mail me when my user talk page is changed' selected in their Preferences; that way if anyone ever contacts other users (for instance, if I wanted to make them aware of the meeting that is planned) they will recieve an email.--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 17:29, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
* Every time the site is down ("Tolkien Gateway is having a problem"), it shows an old logo. Can we get a new one there? -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 20:22, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

==Discussion==

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The Shire

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| image = [[Image:fotr0066.jpg|300px]]
| name = The Shire
| meaning =
| type = Thainship
| hidep=yes
| headofstate = [[Kings of Arnor|King of Arnor]] (de jure), [[Thain]], [[Mayor of Michel Delving]]
| executive = [[Shirriffs]]
| legislative =
| judicial =
| capital = [[Michel Delving]] (de facto)
| size = 18,000 square miles
| language = [[Hobbitish]]
| location = Central [[Eriador]]
| populace= [[Hobbits]]
| currency =
| religious =
| holiday =
| anthem =
| formed = The westward migration of Hobbits led by [[Marcho]] and [[Blanco]]
| established = [[Third Age 1601|T.A. 1601]]
| reorganized = [[Fourth Age 32]]
| fragmented =
| dissolved =
| restored =
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'''The Shire''' is the region that is occupied by [[Hobbits]]. It is located in the north-west of Middle-earth, in the 'continent' of [[Eriador]] and the Kingdom of [[Arnor]]. Its name in [[Westron]] was '''[[SÃ»za]]''' "Shire" or '''SÃ»za-t''' "The Shire".
==Geography==
The Shire measured 40 leagues (193 km, 120 [[NÃºmenÃ³reans|NÃºmenÃ³rean]] miles) from the Far Downs in the west to the Brandywine Bridge in the east, and 50 leagues (241 km, 150 miles) from the northern moors to the marshes in the south. All in all, the Shire had an area of 18,000 square miles (47,000 km²). In order for this figure to be accurate it must be assumed that the Shire was roughly rectangular in shape.

The Brandywine ([[Baranduin]]) river bounds the Shire from the east. (Hobbits also live in ''Buckland'', which lies as a narrow slice between the river and [[The Hedge]] but was not formally recognised as part of The Shire until after the [[War of the Ring]]) From the north and the west The Shire has no topographical borders, but rather is bounded by the ancient south and east roads, and by vague geographical features such as the [[Tower Hills]].

The Shire is described as a small but beautiful and fruitful land, beloved by its inhabitants. The Hobbits had an extensive agricultural system in the Shire, but did not proceed with industrialization. Various supplies could be found in the Shire, including cereals, fruit, wood and [[pipe-weed]] (a favourite treat of Hobbits).

The Shire was quite densely populated in parts with many villages and a few towns, but it still was open enough to allow for wide forested areas and marshes.

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==Administration==
Initially, The Shire was a part of Arthedain. The Hobbits considered themselves as subjects of the King and only after the fall of Arnor, the Shire became an independent political unit led by the '''[[Thain]]''' from ''[[Tuckborough]]'' who was the head of the important [[Took Family|Took clan]]. While nominally the Thain ruled over the four [[Farthings]], in practice authority was so decentralized that the title was seen as more of a formality and ceremonial.

Official of the Shire was the '''[[Mayor of Michel Delving|Mayor]]''' of [[Michel Delving]] in the [[White Downs]] (by extension seen as the [[Mayor of the Shire]]). The Mayor's chief duties were serving as postmaster of the Shire's [[Messenger Service]], charging the [[Watch]] and presiding at fairs

Finally, the '''[[Master of Buckland]]''' at ''[[Bucklebury]]'' controlled [[Buckland]].
[[Image:fotr0059.jpg|300px|left|thumb|The Shire in [[Peter Jackson's The Fellowship of the Ring]].]]
The sole law enforcement officials in the Shire were the [[Shirriffs]]. Their job was to protect the Shire from trespassers more than anything. There were three in each Farthing, and were distinguished from "civilians" by a feather worn in their caps. The [[Bounders]] were the land's border-guard, charged with turning back unwanted people or beasts, and their number varied according to need.

The Shire was originally divided in four Farthings (''[[Northfarthing]]'', ''[[Southfarthing]]'', ''[[Eastfarthing]]'', and ''[[Westfarthing]]''), but [[Buckland]] and later the [[Westmarch]] were added to it. Within the Farthings there are some smaller, unofficial divisions such as family lands: the [[Took Family|Tooks]] nearly all live in or near [[Tuckborough]] in [[Tookland]], for instance. In many cases a Hobbit's last name indicates where their family came from: [[Samwise Gamgee]]'s last name derives from ''[[Gamwich]]'', where the family originated. Outside the Farthings, Buckland itself was named for the [[Oldbucks]] (later [[Brandybuck Family|Brandybucks]]). See further ''[[Regions of the Shire]]''.

==Inspiration==
{{quote|Though a Tolkien by name, I am a Suffield by tastes, talents, and upbringing, and '''any comer of that county [Worcestershire] (however fair or squalid) is in an indefinable way 'home' to me, as no other part of the world is.'''|[[Letter 44]]}}
On Tolkien's maps, the Shire is located at about the same position as England is on modern European maps and has been cited as an example of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_England#Deep_England Deep England] ideology (of course, England being an island while Shire is inside the continent). Throughout the narrative, Tolkien also implies numerous points of similarity between the two, such as weather, agriculture and dialect. One can also see England as Tolkien's source of inspiration for the Shire in its very name.

According to [[Paula Marmor]], the hobbit brothers [[Marcho]] and [[Blanco]] names are related to horses, parallel to [[Wikipedia:Hengest|Hengest]] and [[Wikipedia:Horsa|Horsa]], legendary leaders who brought the Saxons to Britain. Hengest was the founder of [[Wikipedia:Kent|Kent]] whose geography is similar to the Shire (North Downs above, hills to the west, water to the east and marshes to the southeast)<ref>''[[An Introduction to Elvish]]'', An etymological excursion among the Shire Folk</ref>.

The industrialization of the Shire was based on Tolkien's witnessing of the extension of the Industrial Revolution to rural Warwickshire during his youth, and especially the deleterious consequences thereof. The rebellion of the hobbits and the restoration of the pre-industrial Shire may be interpreted as a prescription of voluntary simplicity as a remedy to the problems of modern society.

==See also==
*[[:Category:Images of the Shire|Images of the Shire]]
*[[Thain|Thains of the Shire]]

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[[Category:Shire]]
[[Category:Eriador]]
[[Category:Realms]]

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