Talk:Gwaihir

2009-06-04T15:20:50Z

134.93.228.71:

“If this was to be considered canon then Gwaihir would be exceptionally old by the time of his actions in the War of the Ring; at least 6000 years old.”

So what? Treebeard was alive in the First Age as well; and if one considers the Chapter ''Of Aulë and Yavanna'' in ''The Silmarillion'', one will see that Ents and Eagles are of similar nature. Therefore, it seems quite plausible to me that Eagles have an extremely long life-span.

Furthermore, Christopher Tolkien explicitly stated that he considered it a mistake of his not to include the mention of Gwaihir and Landroval in ''The Silmarillion'' (in ''Sauron Defeated'', chapter ''the Field of Kormallen''). [[Canon]] states that on Tolkien Gateway, “[i]n general, ''The Silmarillion'' and ''Unfinished Tales'' are treated as canon, but corrections published in ''The History of Middle-earth'' generally take precedence.”

Greetings, [[Special:Contributions/134.93.50.217|134.93.50.217]] 17:52, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

:I've removed it for the time being. The whole page needs an expansion, you're welcome to do so :). -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 20:57, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
:Edit: Along with the whole question of his age, there is also the matter "is Gwaihir the [[Lord of the Eagles]] mentioned in ''[[The Hobbit]]''? I've seen an article on it (can't remember where), but the case definately needs some attention as they are nowhere identified as the same character. And the "twice you have borne me"-statement doesn't add up when you take ''The Hobbit'' into account. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 20:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

::I think I’ll first do some editing on the German article, perhaps I’ll turn to this one afterwards.<br>As to the identity of Gwaihir & the Lord of the Eagles, I recently noted on the talk page of the German article that Gwaihir most probably isn’t the Lord of the Eagles from ''The Hobbit'', because he was '''sent''' to bring news to Gandalf (''LotR'', Book Two, Chapter Two). I just can’t see the future King of All Birds to be sent err… er … errand-flying.
::Greetings, [[Special:Contributions/134.93.228.71|134.93.228.71]] 15:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)<br>(Feel free to point out all the awkward or outright silly turns of phrases I use … it’s the only way to improve my English!)

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