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2016-09-01T17:25:56Z

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Where do we get the information in the "Third Age Easterlings" section from? That goes by the movie, not the book. Besides, there are no scources on this page. [[User:Carter938|Carter938]]

== Inspiration ==

I think the information currently given here (that the Easterlings were inspired by the people of central and East Asia) isn't supported by the text, and might be influenced by movie imagery. It seems more likely that they were inspired by Slavic, Hunnic, and Turkic peoples, the peoples living east of the lands settled by Germanic-speaking peoples in the Migration Period. This can probably be supported by the text; Vinitharia's name for example, = 'Wend-fighter'; comparing the descriptions of the Balchoth and Wainriders to descriptions of invaders from the East of Germanic lands. Librán-Moreno's paper 'Byzantium, New Rome!' could probably supply some secondary support for anyone willing to take it on.

Aredhel

2016-01-29T21:08:20Z

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| name=Aredhel
| image=[[File:Darcival - Aredhel.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Aredhel" by [[:Category:Images by Darcival|Darcival]]
| pronun=
| othernames=''Írissë'' ([[Quenya|Q]]), ''Ar-Feiniel'', "White Lady of the Noldor"
| titles=
| position=
| location=[[Gondolin]]
| affiliation=
| language=[[Quenya]] and [[Sindarin]]
| birth={{YT|1362}}<ref name="Annal">{{MR|Annals}}, p. 102, notes 8 and 9</ref>
| birthlocation=[[Tirion]]
| rule=
| death={{FA|400}}
| deathlocation=[[Gondolin]]
| age=1,722 years<ref group="note">Years of the Sun. Each Year of the Tree is equal to 9.582 Years of the Sun, and the Years of the Trees ended in the year 1500. So, 400 + 9.582 x 138 = 1,722.</ref>
| notablefor=
| house=[[House of Fingolfin]]
| parentage=[[Fingolfin]] and [[Anairë]]
| siblings=[[Fingon]], [[Turgon]] and [[Argon]]
| spouse=[[Eöl]]
| children=[[Maeglin]]
| gender=Female
| height=Tall<ref name="Princes">{{S|Princes}}</ref>
| hair=Dark<ref name="Princes"/>
| eyes=
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'''Aredhel''', also called '''Ar-Feiniel''', the White Lady of the [[Noldor]], was the daughter of High King [[Fingolfin]] and [[Anairë]], sister of [[Fingon]], [[Turgon]], and [[Argon]], and mother of [[Maeglin]].

She was tall and strong, fond of hunting and riding in the forests. Her skin was pale and her hair dark; she always wore silver and white. She was fond of the sons of [[Fëanor]], especially [[Celegorm]] and [[Curufin]].

== History ==
Aredhel was born to [[Fingolfin]] and [[Anairë]] in [[Valinor]]. She followed her father and brothers over the [[Helcaraxë]] to [[Middle Earth]].

After arriving in Middle-earth, she dwelt for a time in [[Nevrast]] with her brother Turgon. When he built the hidden city of [[Gondolin]] she went with him. After two hundred years, the longing for the forests and wide lands overcame her and she asked her brother for permission to leave. Turgon was unwilling, because he feared for her safety and for the secrecy of his kingdom. He eventually relented, giving her a small escort of lords for protection. Aredhel ignored his plea that she would only go to see Fingon, desiring instead to meet the [[Sons of Fëanor]] again. They sought passage through [[Doriath]], but were denied because they were of the [[Noldor]]. They were forced to go northward to [[Nan Dungortheb]], where they were separated. Aredhel continued onward to [[Himlad]] where [[Celegorm]] and [[Curufin]] lived, only to find him away. She got tired of waiting, and began taking trips on her own to pass the time. It was on one such trip that she wandered into the forest of [[Nan Elmoth]].

[[File:Ted Nasmith - Eöl Welcomes Aredhel.jpg|thumb|left|[[Ted Nasmith]] - ''Eöl Welcomes Aredhel'']]

[[Eöl]] the [[Dark Elf]] lived there, and upon seeing Aredhel's beauty, wove a spell which caused her to become hopelessly lost and wander ever closer to his home. Eöl revealed himself when she arrived, and welcomed her to his house. They married and had a son named [[Maeglin]]. During this time, Aredhel was free to go where she pleased, with the sole restriction that she couldn't visit any of her kin. Her homesickness led her to tell Maeglin many stories about Gondolin and the Noldor, which only increased her longing for home. Thus, when Maeglin proposed that they abandon Nan Elmoth and return to Gondolin, she responded with pride and joy.

Waiting until Eöl was away, the two fled from Nan Elmoth for Gondolin, but were unknowingly tracked by Eöl, who had discovered their disappearance earlier than expected. Aredhel and Maeglin were received with joy in Gondolin, but the guards quickly caught Eöl and brought him to the King on Aredhel's bidding. Turgon was initially willing to spare Eöl and accept him as a kinsman if he remained in Gondolin, but Eöl would not accept this judgement and chose death for himself and Maeglin. He threw a javelin at his son, but Aredhel shielded Maeglin and was wounded. While she lay resting, she spoke to her niece Idril and begged her to ensure Turgon showed mercy to Eöl. This was not to be, as the weapon Eöl used had been poisoned. Aredhel died shortly after making this final plea, leaving the city and its King bereaved once more.

== Etymology ==
Aredhel's name in [[Valinor]] used to be '''''Írissë'''''. In [[Sindarin]] this name was ''Íreth''.<ref>{{PM|XI}}, p. 345</ref>

The name ''Aredhel'' means "Noble Elf" in [[Sindarin]].<ref>{{PE|17}}, p. 139</ref> Note on pronunciation: Aredhel should be pronounced ''ar-eth-el'' (voiced "th", [ð]), not ''ar-ed-hel''.

== Genealogy ==
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== Other versions of the Legendarium ==
The names ''Aredhel'' and ''Ar-Feiniel'' ("noble white lady") were both originally intended to stand alone, and be used as the main name of Irissë. While preparing ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' for publication [[Christopher Tolkien]] could not discover which name was intended to be used as her final name, and he therefore chose to use both names: a decision he later stated in ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'' series was possibly mistaken.

== See also ==
* [[:Category:Images of Aredhel|Images of Aredhel]]
{{references|note}}
[[Category:Noldor]]
[[Category:Characters in The Silmarillion]]
[[Category:First Age characters]]
[[Category:Gondolindrim]]
[[Category:House of Fingolfin]]

Aredhel

2015-06-04T21:07:07Z

198.161.230.12:

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| image=[[File:Darcival - Aredhel.jpg|250px]]
| name=Aredhel
| pronun=
| othernames=''Írissë'' ([[Quenya|Q]]), ''Ar-Feiniel'', "White Lady of the Noldor"
| titles=
| position=
| location=[[Gondolin]]
| affiliation=
| language=[[Quenya]] and [[Sindarin]]
| birth={{YT|1362}}<ref name="Annal">{{MR|Annals}}, p. 102, notes 8 and 9</ref>
| birthlocation=[[Tirion]]
| rule=
| death={{FA|400}}
| deathlocation=[[Gondolin]]
| age=1,722 years<ref group="note">Years of the Sun. Each Year of the Tree is equal to 9.582 Years of the Sun, and the Years of the Trees ended in the year 1500. So, 400 + 9.582 x 138 = 1,722.</ref>
| notablefor=
| house=[[House of Fingolfin]]
| parentage=[[Fingolfin]] and [[Anairë]]
| siblings=[[Fingon]], [[Turgon]] and [[Argon]]
| spouse=[[Eöl]]
| children=[[Maeglin]]
| gender=Female
| height=Tall<ref name="Princes">{{S|Princes}}</ref>
| hair=Dark<ref name="Princes"/>
| eyes=
| clothing=Silver and white<ref name="Princes"/>
| weapons=
| steed=
}}'''Aredhel''', also called '''Ar-Feiniel''', the White Lady of the [[Noldor]], was the daughter of High King [[Fingolfin]] and [[Anairë]], sister of [[Fingon]], [[Turgon]], and [[Argon]], and mother of [[Maeglin]].

She was tall and strong, fond of hunting and riding in the forests. Her skin was pale and her hair dark; she always wore silver and white. She was fond of the sons of [[Fëanor]], especially [[Celegorm]] and [[Curufin]].

==History==

Aredhel would have been born to [[Fingolfin]] and [[Anairë]] in [[Valinor]]. She would have followed her father and brothers over the [[Helcaraxë]] to Middle Earth.

After arriving in [[Middle-earth]], she dwelt for a time in [[Nevrast]] with her brother Turgon. When he built the hidden city of [[Gondolin]] she went with him. After two hundred years, the longing for the forests and wide lands overcame her and she asked her brother for permission to leave. Turgon was unwilling, because he feared for her safety and for the secrecy of his kingdom. He eventually relented, giving her a small escort of lords for protection. Aredhel ignored his plea that she only go see Fingon, desiring instead to meet the Sons of Fëanor again. They sought passage through Doriath, but were denied because they were [[Noldor]]. They were forced to go northward to [[Nan Dungortheb]], where they were separated. Aredhel continued onwards to [[Himlad]] where [[Celegorm]] lived, only to find him away. She tired of waiting, and began taking trips on her own to pass the time. It was on one such trip that she wandered into the forest of [[Nan Elmoth]].

[[File:Ted Nasmith - Eöl Welcomes Aredhel.jpg|thumb|left|[[Ted Nasmith]] - ''Eöl Welcomes Aredhel'']]

[[Eöl]] the [[Dark Elf]] lived there, and upon seeing Aredhel's beauty, wove a spell which caused her to become hopelessly lost and wander ever closer to his home. Eöl revealed himself when she arrived, and welcomed her to his house. They married and had a son named [[Maeglin]]. During this time, Aredhel was free to go where she pleased, with the sole restriction that she couldn't visit any of her kin. Her homesickness led her to tell Maeglin many stories about Gondolin and the Noldor, which only increased her longing for home. Thus, when Maeglin proposed that they abandon Nan Elmoth and return to Gondolin, she responded with pride and joy.

Waiting until Eöl was away, the two fled Nan Elmoth for Gondolin, but were unknowingly tracked by Eöl, who had discovered their disappearance earlier than expected. Aredhel and Maeglin were received with joy in Gondolin, but the guards quickly caught Eöl and brought him to the King on Aredhel's bidding. Turgon was initially willing to spare Eöl and accept him as a kinsman if he remained in Gondolin forever, but Eöl would not accept this judgement and chose death for himself and Maeglin. He threw a javelin at his son, but Aredhel shielded Maeglin and was wounded. While she lay resting, she spoke to her niece Idril and begged her to ensure Turgon showed mercy on Eöl. This was not to be, as the weapon Eöl used had been poisoned. Aredhel died shortly after making this final plea, leaving the city and its King bereaved once more.

==Etymology==

Aredhel's name in [[Valinor]] used to be '''''Írissë'''''. In [[Sindarin]] this name was ''Íreth''.<ref>{{PM|XI}}, p. 345</ref>

The name ''Aredhel'' means "Noble Elf" in [[Sindarin]].<ref>{{PE|17}}, p. 139</ref> Note on pronunciation: Aredhel should be pronounced ''ar-eth-el'' ("th" as in "thus" not as in "thin"), not ''ar-ed-hel''.

== Other versions of the Legendarium ==
The names ''Aredhel'' and ''Ar-Feiniel'' ("noble white lady") were both originally intended to stand alone, and be used as the main name of Irissë. While preparing ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' for publication [[Christopher Tolkien]] could not discover which name was intended to be used as her final name, and he therefore chose to use both names: a decision he later stated in [[the History of Middle-earth]] series was possibly mistaken.

==Genealogy==
 
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==See also==
* [[:Category:Images of Aredhel|Images of Aredhel]]
{{references|note}}

* {{S|Maeglin}}
[[Category:Noldor]]
[[Category:Characters in The Silmarillion]]
[[Category:First Age characters]]
[[Category:Gondolindrim]]
[[Category:House of Fingolfin]]