Tolkien Gateway - User contributions [en]

Talk:Círdan

2019-05-29T01:14:36Z

216.185.36.154:

==Beard==
I don't own it myself, but I know where the "third cycle" stuff is found: ''[[Vinyar Tengwar]]'' [[Vinyar Tengwar 41|41]]. Other than that, there is the quote from "[[The Grey Havens]]":

"''As the came to the gates Círdan the Shipwright came to greet them. Very tall his was, and '''his beard was long''', and he was grey and old, save that his eyes were keen as stars; and he looked at them and bowed, and he said: 'All is now ready.' ''"

That's all I've got, I'm afraid. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 11:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

::Hmm, well assuming our article is accurate it contains "Etymological Notes on the Ósanwe-kenta", "From The Shibboleth of Fëanor" and "Notes on Óre" by Tolkien. I just read the Shibboleth of Feanor so I know there's nothing about Cirdan there. I'll see if the other two were published in HoME as well. {{User:Aule the Smith/sig}} 12:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

:::Reading around the web I'm pretty sure it's in the Ósanwe-kenta section, but that hasn't been published anywhere but VT. If someone with that issue could verify the discussion about 'third cycles' and beards and then add a reference that would be great. {{User:Aule the Smith/sig}} 12:07, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

::::The Osanwe section of VT41 is two pages words ''Etymologies''-style. Scouring through the issue now. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 12:31, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
::::"Notes on ''Óre''" does briefly mention the aging of Elves and Men, but does not mention a Third Cycle or Círdan. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 12:47, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

:::::Perhaps it's in the main body of the Ósanwe-kenta - issue 39 I think. {{User:Aule the Smith/sig}} 13:16, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

:::::See [http://forums.theonering.com/viewtopic.php?t=1447&start=30 this] (second post down). All online discussions I've seen say it is in VT 41. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 13:28, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::[[The Lord of the Rings: A Reader's Companion|The Reader Companion]] in the chapter [[The Grey Havens]] quotes a part of VT41 with says that [[Círdan]] was in the third circle. I read that part while coming back from vacation. I'll search out the exact page tomorrow. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]]
::::::Acording to the Reader Companion its on p. 9 of [[Vinyar Tengwar 41]].

:::<s>Checked page 9, it's not there. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 09:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)</s>

::::I'm a little confused about what you all are confused about, but here is my suggestion for a different "beard" paragraph:

<nowiki>The eldest known Elf to remain on Middle-earth, Círdan appeared very old save for his eyes, with a consistent long silver beard.<ref>{{RK|Havens}}</ref> Likely, he had grown a beard since having reached his [[Elven Life cycle#"Cycles of life" and aging|third cycle of life]].<ref>{{VT|41b}}, p. 9</ref></nowiki>

::::I would skip the last paragraph ("His apparent ageing may come from the many pains and troubles he has seen on Middle-earth"), since this seems to me to be mere speculation. --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 12:51, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:::::"Elves did not have beards until they entered the third cycle of life. Nerdanel's father was exceptional, being only early in the second."
::::::::- Vinyar Tengwar 41 p. 9 (reproduced in [[The Lord of the Rings: A Reader's Companion]] p. 674).
:::::--[[User:Amroth|Amroth]]

:::Ignore my earlier remark, it's there, at the bottom of page 9. Full quote: "Elves did not have beards until they entered the third cycle of life. Nerdanel's father [cf. XII:365-66 n.61] was exceptional, being only early in the second." --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 16:55, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Age ==

I have calculated his age as being between 11,363 and 10,405 years at the end of LotR. Should such information perhaps be included? Otherwise, it could only remain in this Talk section. [[Special:Contributions/37.196.206.40|37.196.206.40]] 05:40, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

== When did Círdan leave Middle-Earth? ==

Doesn't the last paragraph of The Silmarillion seem to indicate that he left Middle-Earth with Elrond and others? [[User:Haran|Haran]] 04:24, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

::But as for me, my heart is with the Sea, and I will dwell by the grey shores, '''guarding the Havens until the last ship sails. Then I shall await thee.’'''
::'''White was that ship and long was it a-building, and long it awaited the end of which Círdan had spoken But when all these things were done''', and the Heir of Isildur had taken up the lordship of Men, and the dominion of the West had passed to him, then it was made plain that the power of the Three Rings also was ended, and to the Firstborn the world grew old and grey. In that time the last of the Noldor set sail from the Havens and left Middle-earth for ever. '''And latest of all the Keepers of the Three Rings rode to the Sea''' (...)
:::The Last Ship, carrying Cirdan and Celeborn, apparently sailed before Fo.A. 120 based on Aragorn's final words to Arwen. Aragorn suggests Arwen might still sail into the West, and one of the reasons she gives that this is impossible is that "There is now no ship that would bear me hence...". This implies that the Last Ship had already sailed by Fo.A. 120, the year in which this conversation took place.--[[Special:Contributions/216.185.36.154|216.185.36.154]] 01:14, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

House of Finarfin

2019-05-29T01:06:59Z

216.185.36.154:

The '''House of Finarfin''' was the descendants and followers of [[Finarfin]], third son of [[Finwë]] who followed [[Fëanor]]. A particular aspect of this house is that many had golden hair, due to their half-[[Vanyar]]in heritage.

During the march on [[Aman]], Finarfin himself repented when heard the [[Doom of Mandos|Doom of the Noldor]] and returned to the West with some of his followers.<ref>{{S|Flight}}</ref>

His children, led by [[Finrod]], came to [[Beleriand]], and that is why his House is also named ''House of Finrod''. [[Galadriel]] belonged to this house as well as [[Gildor Inglorion]]<ref>{{FR|Three}}</ref> and perhaps [[Glorfindel]]<ref>{{HM|Guide}}, p. 204, entry House of Finrod</ref>. Such [[Elves]] remained in [[Middle-earth]] until the late [[Third Age]].

== Genealogy ==
<div style="overflow-x: scroll; overflow-y: hidden; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA; padding: 3px; background: #EEEEEE;">
{{familytree/start}}
{{familytree| MIR |y|~|~|~|~|~|~| FIN |y| IND | | | | | | | | | | | | OLW | | | | | | | |MIR=[[Míriel]]''d. {{YT|1170}}''|FIN=[[Finwë]]''d. {{YT|1495}}''|IND=[[Indis]]''b. {{YT}}''|OLW=[[Olwë]]''b. {{YT}}''}}
{{familytree| | | |!| | | |,|-|-|-|v|-|^|-|v|-|-|-|.| | | | | | | |,|-|^|-|.| | | | | | |}}
{{familytree| | | FEA | | FDS | | FNG | | IRM | | FRF |~|~|y|~|~| EAW | | SON | | | | | |FEA=[[Fëanor]]''{{YT|1169}} - {{YT|1497|n}}''|FDS=[[Findis]]''b. {{YT}}''|FNG=[[Fingolfin]]''{{YT|1190}} - {{FA|456}}''|IRM=[[Írimë]]''b. {{YT}}''|FRF='''FINARFIN'''''b. {{YT|1230}}''|EAW=[[Eärwen]]''b. {{YT}}''|SON=''unknown sons''}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |,|-|-|-|v|-|-|-|^|-|-|-|v|-|-|.| | | | | | | |}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | FRD | | ANG |y| ELD | | AEG | | GAL |y| CEL | |FRD=[[Finrod]]''{{YT|1300}} - {{FA|465}}''|ANG=[[Angrod]]''d. {{FA|455}}''|AEG=[[Aegnor]]''d. {{FA|455}}''|GAL=[[Galadriel]]''b. {{YT|1362}}''|ELD=[[Eldalótë]]''b. {{YT}}''|CEL=[[Celeborn]]''b. {{FA}}''}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |!| | | | | | | | | | | |!| | | | |}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ORO | | | | | | ELR |y| CLB | | | |ORO=[[Orodreth]]''d. {{FA|495}}''|CLB=[[Celebrían]]''b. {{SA}}''|ELR=[[Elrond]]''b. {{FA|532}}''}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |,|-|^|-|.| | | |,|-|-|-|+|-|-|-|.| | |}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | GIL | | FIL | | ELL | | ELO | | ARW | |GIL=[[Gil-galad]]''d. {{SA|3441}}''|FIL=[[Finduilas]]''d. {{FA|495}}''|ELL=[[Elladan]]''b. {{TA|130}}''|ELO=[[Elrohir]]''b. {{TA|130}}''|ARW=[[Arwen]]''{{TA|241}} - {{FoA|121}}''}}
{{familytree/end}}
</div>

==See also==
*[[House of Finwë]]
{{references}}
[[Category:House of Finarfin| ]]
[[Category:Elvish noble houses]]

House of Finarfin

2019-05-29T01:05:58Z

216.185.36.154:

The '''House of Finarfin''' was the descendants and followers of [[Finarfin]], third son of [[Finwë]] who followed [[Fëanor]]. A particular aspect of this house is that many had golden hair, due to their half-[[Vanyar]]in heritage.

During the march on [[Aman]] Finarfin himself repented when heard the [[Doom of Mandos|Doom of the Noldor]] and returned to the West with some of his followers.<ref>{{S|Flight}}</ref>

His children, led by [[Finrod]], came to [[Beleriand]], and that is why his House is also named ''House of Finrod''. [[Galadriel]] belonged to this house as well as [[Gildor Inglorion]]<ref>{{FR|Three}}</ref> and perhaps [[Glorfindel]]<ref>{{HM|Guide}}, p. 204, entry House of Finrod</ref>. Such [[Elves]] remained in [[Middle-earth]] until the late [[Third Age]].

== Genealogy ==
<div style="overflow-x: scroll; overflow-y: hidden; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA; padding: 3px; background: #EEEEEE;">
{{familytree/start}}
{{familytree| MIR |y|~|~|~|~|~|~| FIN |y| IND | | | | | | | | | | | | OLW | | | | | | | |MIR=[[Míriel]]''d. {{YT|1170}}''|FIN=[[Finwë]]''d. {{YT|1495}}''|IND=[[Indis]]''b. {{YT}}''|OLW=[[Olwë]]''b. {{YT}}''}}
{{familytree| | | |!| | | |,|-|-|-|v|-|^|-|v|-|-|-|.| | | | | | | |,|-|^|-|.| | | | | | |}}
{{familytree| | | FEA | | FDS | | FNG | | IRM | | FRF |~|~|y|~|~| EAW | | SON | | | | | |FEA=[[Fëanor]]''{{YT|1169}} - {{YT|1497|n}}''|FDS=[[Findis]]''b. {{YT}}''|FNG=[[Fingolfin]]''{{YT|1190}} - {{FA|456}}''|IRM=[[Írimë]]''b. {{YT}}''|FRF='''FINARFIN'''''b. {{YT|1230}}''|EAW=[[Eärwen]]''b. {{YT}}''|SON=''unknown sons''}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |,|-|-|-|v|-|-|-|^|-|-|-|v|-|-|.| | | | | | | |}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | FRD | | ANG |y| ELD | | AEG | | GAL |y| CEL | |FRD=[[Finrod]]''{{YT|1300}} - {{FA|465}}''|ANG=[[Angrod]]''d. {{FA|455}}''|AEG=[[Aegnor]]''d. {{FA|455}}''|GAL=[[Galadriel]]''b. {{YT|1362}}''|ELD=[[Eldalótë]]''b. {{YT}}''|CEL=[[Celeborn]]''b. {{FA}}''}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |!| | | | | | | | | | | |!| | | | |}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ORO | | | | | | ELR |y| CLB | | | |ORO=[[Orodreth]]''d. {{FA|495}}''|CLB=[[Celebrían]]''b. {{SA}}''|ELR=[[Elrond]]''b. {{FA|532}}''}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |,|-|^|-|.| | | |,|-|-|-|+|-|-|-|.| | |}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | GIL | | FIL | | ELL | | ELO | | ARW | |GIL=[[Gil-galad]]''d. {{SA|3441}}''|FIL=[[Finduilas]]''d. {{FA|495}}''|ELL=[[Elladan]]''b. {{TA|130}}''|ELO=[[Elrohir]]''b. {{TA|130}}''|ARW=[[Arwen]]''{{TA|241}} - {{FoA|121}}''}}
{{familytree/end}}
</div>

==See also==
*[[House of Finwë]]
{{references}}
[[Category:House of Finarfin| ]]
[[Category:Elvish noble houses]]

Nargothrond

2019-05-29T01:01:02Z

216.185.36.154:

{{kingdom
| image=[[File:Jonathan Guzi - Nargothrond.jpg|250px]]
| name=Nargothrond
| pronun=
| othernames=
| location=[[West Beleriand]], on the river [[Narog]] beneath the hills of [[Taur-en-Faroth]]
| capital=Nargothrond
| towns=
| regions=[[Taur-en-Faroth]], [[Talath Dirnen]], [[Tumhalad]]
| population=[[Elves of Nargothrond]]
| language=[[Quenya]] and [[Sindarin]]
| govern1=[[Finrod]]
| govern2=Later [[Orodreth]]
| govern3=
| currency=
| holiday=
| precededby=[[Nulukkizdîn]]
| event1=Founded
| event1date={{FA|52}}
| event2=Completed
| event2date=c. {{FA|102}}
| event3=Destroyed
| event3date={{FA|495}}
| event4=
| event4date=
| event5=
| event5date=
| followedby=
}}
'''Nargothrond''' was the stronghold built by [[Finrod|Finrod Felagund]] which delved into the banks of the river [[Narog]] in [[Beleriand]].

Nargothrond was the capital of the '''realm of Nargothrond'''<Ref group=note>The name appears only in the map accompanying ''[[The Silmarillion]]''. In the text, the realm is mentioned with miniscule letters.</ref> between [[Nenning]], Narog and [[Teiglin]], including the surrounding hills of [[Taur-en-Faroth]] and the [[Talath Dirnen]] to the north, as well as [[Tumhalad]]. Finrod was the overlord of all the [[Elves]] in the [[West Beleriand]], except the [[Falathrim]].<ref>{{S|Realms}}</ref><ref>{{S|Map}}</ref>

==History==
===Creation===
On the western bank of the river [[Narog]], beneath the forested hills of Taur-en-Faroth, the Caverns of Narog were first known as [[Nulukkizdîn]], secretly inhabited by the [[Petty-dwarves]] before they were driven out.<ref>{{S|Doriath}}</ref> What became of the Petty-Dwarves at this time is not recorded, but at least some escaped to dwell in [[Amon Rûdh]].<ref>{{CH|7}}</ref>

[[File:J.R.R. Tolkien - Nargothrond (II) (Colored by H.E. Riddett).jpg|left|thumb|[[J.R.R. Tolkien]] (Colors by [[H.E. Riddett]]) - ''Nargothrond'']]

After the return of the [[Noldor]] to [[Middle-earth]], King [[Thingol]] described the Caverns to his kinsman [[Finrod]]. Inspired by [[Menegroth]] in [[Doriath]], and seeking a hidden place from which to be safe from the forces of [[Morgoth]], Finrod chose those caves to build his great underground fortress, and established Nargothrond. He was aided by the [[Dwarves]] of the [[Ered Luin]], who also made for him the [[Nauglamír]], the Necklace of the Dwarves and gave him his famous epithet, ''Felagund'', Hewer of Caves. Finrod rewarded them with treasures he brought from [[Tirion]].<ref name=return>{{S|Return}}</ref>

Finrod also raised an artificial hill, [[Amon Ethir]], a league far from the gates of Nargothrond.<ref>{{S|Turin}}</ref>

===Days of Power===

Finrod ruled Nargothrond until he joined [[Beren]] in his quest for the [[Silmarils|Silmaril]] and handed rule to [[Orodreth]]. However, since the [[Dagor Bragollach]] [[Celegorm]] and [[Curufin]], the sons of [[Fëanor]], were defeated and retreated to Nargothrond where they were received as one of them. Although the city grew stronger because of this, the influence of the sons of Feänor became higher. Celegorm and Curufin lived in Nargothrond at the time Finrod departed with Beren and were more powerful than Orodreth until Finrod's death was reported, at which time they were exiled.

===Fall===
[[File:Elena Kukanova - Nargothrond - Turin and Finduilas.jpg|thumb|left|Elena Kukanova - ''Nargothrond - Turin and Finduilas'']]
(''Main article: [[Fall of Nargothrond]]'')

[[Túrin|Túrin Turambar]] later came to Nargothrond and became one of its chief fighters, but he also persuaded the people to fight openly against Morgoth (the bridge was built at this time), which eventually led to its sack by the army of the dragon [[Glaurung]].

===Afterwards===
[[Glaurung]] stayed there for about five more years guarding his stolen hoard until he went northeast to [[Brethil]] to assail Túrin and was killed by him at [[Cabed-en-Aras]]. Then, [[Mîm]] the Petty-dwarf settled there reclaiming his people's ancient home until he was killed by [[Húrin]]. Húrin entered the dark caves where the treasures Finrod brought from [[Valinor]] still lay there, but he brought out the [[Nauglamir]].<ref>{{S|Doriath}}</ref>

The realm remained deserted for the rest of the First Age until the [[War of Wrath]] when it went down with the rest of Beleriand.

==Etymology==
From its first conception, the name '''Nargothrond''' means "Underground fortress on the river [[Narog]]". Its [[Petty-dwarves|Petty-dwarvish]] name was '''[[Nulukkizdîn|Nulukkhizdîn]]''' (erronously spelled ''Nulukkizdîn'' in the published works).<ref>{{WJ|10}}</ref>

However, in his later life, [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien]] devised the Dwarvish name ''Nar(u)kathan'' instead, to which the Elves suffixed ''-[[rond]]'', "vaulted dome".<ref>{{PE|17}}, p. 47</ref>

In [[Eriol]]'s [[Old English]] translations, Nargothrond is referred as ''Hlydingaburg'' "City of the Hlydingas" or ''Stangaldor(burg)''.<ref>{{SM|QA1}}</ref>

==See also==
* [[:Category:Images of Nargothrond|Images of Nargothrond]]

{{references|note}}
[[Category:Beleriand]]
[[Category:Caves]]
[[Category:Elven realms]]
[[Category:Sindarin locations]]
[[Category:Cities, towns and villages]]

[[de:Nargothrond]]
[[fi:Nargothrond]]
[[fr:encyclo/geographie/villes_tours_et_forteresses/beleriand/nargothrond]]

House of Fingolfin

2019-05-29T00:56:03Z

216.185.36.154:

The House of the descendants and followers of [[Fingolfin]], second son of [[Finwë]], who was accounted [[High King of the Noldor]] after the death of his elder brother [[Fëanor]] in the first year of the [[First Age]].

During the early years of the First Age, the House of Fingolfin held the lands to the northwest of [[Beleriand]]; [[Hithlum]], [[Nevrast]] and [[Gondolin]]. Of these, the city of Gondolin held until I 510, but Hithlum was overrun by [[Morgoth]] in the [[Nirnaeth Arnoediad]], where Fingon was slain (Fingolfin had already met his end in the [[Dagor Bragollach]]). The remnant of the House, including Fingon's son [[Gil-galad|Ereinion Gil-galad]], were succoured by [[Círdan]] in the [[Grey Havens]].<ref group=note>In the [[Silmarillion]], Gil-galad's father was [[Fingon]]; in later notes [[Tolkien]] changed him to [[Orodreth]], but never incorporated this change in a narrative. See [[#Other Versions of the Legendarium]]</ref>

After the Nirnaeth, [[Tuor]] son of [[Huor]] was sent as a messenger to [[Turgon]] in [[Gondolin]], and there wedded Turgon's daughter [[Idril]]. Thus was the blood of [[Men]] introduced into the House, and the descendants of their line were named half-elven, given the choice of whether they were to considered [[Men]] or [[Elves]]. All these descendants chose to be considered among the [[Firstborn]], except [[Elrond]]'s brother [[Elros]] (who became the first King of [[Númenor]] and was a direct ancestor of [[Aragorn|Aragorn Elessar]]), and Elrond's daughter [[Arwen]] (Queen to Aragorn at the end of the [[Third Age]]).

After the [[Fall of Gondolin]], the survivors of the House lived as exiles at the [[Mouths of Sirion]] or in the [[Falas]], until [[Eärendil]], descendant of Fingolfin's second son Turgon, sailed into the West to seek the aid of the [[Valar]], who overthrew Morgoth in the [[War of Wrath]] in c. I 583.

The last High King of the Noldor, Ereinion Gil-galad, remained in Middle-earth. Despite having been listed as the son of Fingon in the official Silmarillion, Christopher Tolkien later admitted this was an editorial error on his part. Gil-Galad's correct parentage is [[Orodreth]] of the [[House of Finarfin]].

==Genealogy==
<div style="overflow-x: scroll; overflow-y: hidden; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA; padding: 3px; background: #EEEEEE;">
{{familytree/start}}
{{familytree| MIR |y| FIN |y| IND | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |FIN=[[Finwë]]''d. {{YT|1495}}''|IND=[[Indis]]''b. {{YT}}''|MIR=[[Míriel]]''d. {{YT|1170}}''}}
{{familytree| | | |!| | | |)|-|-|-|v|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|v|-|-|-|.| | | |}}
{{familytree| | | FEA | | FDS | | FNG |y| ANA | | IRM | | FIR | | |FEA=[[Fëanor]]''{{YT|1169}} - {{YT|1497|n}}''|FDS=[[Findis]]''b. {{YT}}''|FNG='''FINGOLFIN'''''{{YT|1190}} - {{FA|456}}''|ANA=[[Anairë]]''b. {{YT}}''|IRM=[[Írimë]]''b. {{YT}}''|FIR=[[Finarfin]]''b. {{YT|1230}}''}}
{{familytree| |,|-|-|-|v|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|+|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|.| |}}
{{familytree| FIN | | TUR |y| ELE | | ARE |y| EOL | | ARG|FIN=[[Fingon]]''d. {{FA|472}}''|ARE=[[Aredhel]]''{{YT|1362}} - {{FA|400}}''|TUR=[[Turgon]]''{{YT|1300}} - {{FA|510}}''|ELE=[[Elenwë]]''d. {{YT|1500}}''|EOL=[[Eöl]]''d. {{FA|400}}''|ARG=[[Argon]]''d. {{FA|1}}''}}
{{familytree| | | | | | | |!| | | | | | | |!| | | | | | | |}}
{{familytree| | | TUO |y| IDR | | | | | | MAE | | | | | ||MAE=[[Maeglin]]''{{FA|320}} - {{FA|510|n}}''|IDR=[[Idril]]''b. {{YT}}''|TUO=[[Tuor]]''b. {{FA|472}}''}}
{{familytree| | | | | |!| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |}}
{{familytree| | | | | EAR | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ||EAR=[[Eärendil]]''b. {{FA|503}}''}}
{{familytree/end}}
</div>

{{notes}}
[[Category:House of Fingolfin| ]]
[[Category:Elvish noble houses]]

Finwë

2019-05-29T00:48:36Z

216.185.36.154:

{{noldor infobox
| name=Finwë
| image=[[File:Kimberly - Finwe.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Finwe" by [[:Category:Images by Kimberly|Kimberly]]
| pronun=
| othernames=''[[Finwë#Other names and titles|Ñoldóran]]''
| titles=[[High King of the Noldor]]
| position=
| location=[[Tirion]]
| affiliation=
| language=[[Common Eldarin]] and [[Quenya]]
| birth=Between {{YT|1050}} and {{YT|1102|n}}
| birthlocation=[[Cuiviénen]]
| rule={{YT|1102}} - {{YT|1495|n}}
| death={{YT|1495}}
| deathlocation=[[Formenos]]
| age=between 445/4,293 and 393/3,765 [[Years of the Sun|years]]
| notablefor=
| house=Founded the [[House of Finwë]]
| parentage=
| siblings=
| spouse=[[Míriel|Míriel Serindë]][[Indis]]
| children=[[Fëanor]] (by Míriel)[[Findis]], [[Fingolfin]], [[Írimë]] and [[Finarfin]] (by Indis)
| gender=Male
| height=
| hair=Black
| eyes=Bright blue-grey<ref name="Eyes">{{PM|Shibboleth}}, p. 357, note 17</ref>
| clothing=
| weapons=
| steed=
}}{{Pronounce|Finwe Noldoran.mp3|Ardamir}}
<center>{{quote|But Melkor was also there, and he came to the house of Fëanor and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark. |''[[The Silmarillion]]'', [[Of the Flight of the Noldor]]}}</center>
'''Finwë''' ([[Quenya|Q]], pron. [[Noldorin|N]] {{IPA|[ˈfinwe]}}, [[Vanyarin|V]] {{IPA|[ˈɸinwe]}}) was the first [[High King of the Noldor]], who led his people on the journey from Middle-earth to [[Valinor]] in the blessed realm of [[Aman]]. He was a great friend of [[Thingol|Elwë]], who would later become the [[King of Doriath]].

==History==
===Life in Middle-earth===

The first [[Elves]] awoke in [[Middle-earth]] near the bay of the [[Sea of Helcar]], called [[Cuiviénen]], in {{YT|1050}}<ref name="Annals">{{MR|P2e}}, pp. 71-4</ref>. [[Oromë]], The Huntsman of the [[Valar]], while traveling near the [[Orocarni]] mountains, discovered the Elves and bonded friendship with their kin.

Later, as the Valar decided to call the first Children of [[Ilúvatar]] in Valinor, regarding this call with suspicion, Oromë selected three elves to follow him into Aman and report back what they have seen, in the hopes that they could assuage the fears which were seeded into the hearts of the elves by [[Morgoth|Melkor]]. The three elven ambassadors were [[Ingwë]], Finwë and [[Thingol|Elwë]], who would later become kings of the three factions into which the elven race was split.<ref name=S3>{{S|3}}</ref>

Enamored by the wonders of Valinor, Finwë and his other two companions returned towards the Middle-earth and attempted to convince their respective peoples to follow them back into Aman. Those who agreed to follow Oromë received the name [[Eldar]]. Among them were Finwë's people, who would eventually become known as the [[Noldor]]. They later became students of [[Aulë]] the Smith.<ref name=S3/> Finwë's eldest son, [[Fëanor]], would become the greatest craftsman among the Elves of Valinor.<ref name=S5/>

===Life in Valinor ===
[[Image:J.R.R. Tolkien - Finwe Heraldic Device.jpg|thumb|125px|Finwë's Heraldic Device]]
Upon arriving in the blessed realm of Aman, Finwë was troubled only by the separation from his friend [[Thingol|Elwë]] who chose to remain in [[Beleriand]]. The Noldor settled on the hill of [[Túna]], raised for them by the Valar and, led by Finwë, they lived in the city of [[Tirion]], which they shared with the [[Vanyar]]. It was during the building of Finwë's house that the masons found the earth-gems from which they crafted countless jewels to be given freely for the enrichment of Valinor. Later, Ingwë and his people left the city of Tirion and Finwë remained the only king to rule in Tirion.<ref name=S5>{{S|5}}</ref>

Finwë's first wife was [[Míriel|Míriel Serindë]], skilled in all things that required fineness. From their love a son was born, [[Fëanor|Curufinwë]], who would later become known as Fëanor. As he was brought into the world, he depleted Míriel's strength and zest for life and she requested to be allowed to rest in the gardens of [[Irmo|Lórien]]. Finwë was deeply saddened by this event. He did not wish to leave the young child without a mother, nor did he want him to be their last. But as his wife explained that what would have nourished many children, was all invested in Fëanor, he had no other choice but to accept her request. And thus Míriel, with [[Manwë]]'s counsel, was placed asleep in Irmo's gardens. Her [[fëa]] eventually departed from her body and she became the first person to die in Aman.<ref name=S6>{{S|6}}</ref>
[[File:Steamey - Finwë Mourning Míriel.jpg|thumb|left|Steamey - ''Finwë Mourning Míriel'']]
This was a shocking event for all those present in Valinor, as never one of their own had died of free will. For some time, Finwë lived in sorrow and he often visited Míriel's body, but as his loneliness and lack of joy increased, he stopped seeing her altogether. His entire love now rested with his son, Fëanor, who grew up to be mighty and skilled in all things of hands and mind. He married [[Nerdanel]] and gave Finwë [[Sons of Fëanor|seven grandchildren]].

But Finwë was not content in living alone and he sought to marry for the second time. His second wife was [[Indis|Indis the Fair]], a golden haired [[Vanya]], whom he loved and rejoiced in. She gave him two sons, [[Fingolfin]] and [[Finarfin]], and two daughters, [[Findis]] and [[Írimë]]<ref>{{PM|Shibboleth}}, ''The names of Finwë's descendants''</ref>. Though he was now blissful again, the shadow of Míriel never left the House, especially since Fëanor opposed his father's second marriage.

The sons of Finwë never lived together and never shared close bonds. After the later events surrounding the [[Silmarils]] many blamed Finwë and his desire to have a second wife for the dreadful future misfortune of all those of his House. These accusations had no real merit, as Finwë had always loved his eldest son above all others, and the events surrounding his death would prove it.

===Death===
After three ages of imprisonment, Melkor was released from the duress of [[Halls of Mandos|Mandos]] and, as he gained the trust of the Valar again, he was eventually allowed to roam freely in Valinor.<ref name=S6>{{S|6}}</ref> The treacherous Melkor lusted for the Silmarils, those three great jewels made by the hands of Fëanor, at the might of his skill, and ever he sought a way to steal them. He had sown such lies that all the Noldor began to feel strife and mistrust, against themselves, against the other Elves, and even against the Valar.

The [[House of Finwë]] was no exception. There were already grounds of argument between his sons, and these events only served to deepen these rifts. Finwë called a council and tried to moderate them towards one another. For the moment, his action seemed to be crowned with success, as Fingolfin bowed before Finwë, both privately and publically, to silence the mistrust and arguments he had in regards to his eldest brother. Soon after that the Valar called Fëanor to answer for his words against them. The stem of the evil was exposed and Melkor's covert actions revealed. However, Fëanor too was sentenced to twelve years of exile, and he removed himself north, to the fortress of [[Formenos]]. Due to the great love he had for his eldest son, Finwë renounced his throne as the King of the Noldor and followed Fëanor into exile.<ref>{{S|Unrest}}</ref>

In his fixation to have the Silmarils for himself, Melkor went as far as to claim them at the gates of Formenos. He was fiercely rejected by Fëanor, while Finwë sent messengers to Manwë. It was during a time of festival, that Melkor returned. All the people of Valinor were engaged in the festivities except Finwë, who, out of devotion for Fëanor and bitterness for his son's exile, chose to remain in Formenos, thus refusing to obey Manwë's call.<ref>{{S|Darkening}}</ref> After Melkor and [[Ungoliant]] destroyed the [[Two Trees of Valinor]], they headed towards Formenos. Alone Finwë had the courage to stand before the horror of the Darkness. There, before the doors of Formenos, the former King of the Noldor had been killed and the first blood was spilled in the realm of Aman. Melkor forcefully entered the fortress and stole the Silmarils, sending the Blessed Realm into darkness and causing the Noldor to depart from Valinor.<ref>{{S|Flight}}</ref>

After his death, Finwë dwelt for a time in the Halls of Mandos where he met Míriel, his first wife. Later, when the Valar agreed that Finwë should be brought back to life, he instead decided not to, thus giving Míriel a chance to be reincarnated.<ref>{{MR|P3II2}}, p. 207</ref>

==Etymology==

The name ''Finwë'' is said to be one of the oldest recorded names of the Eldar. It is not certain if ''Finwë'' had any clear meaning, but it can be analyzed as ''fin-'' (derived from [[Common Eldarin]] PHIN "hair") + ''[[-wë]]'' (suffix generally used for male names).<ref>{{PM|Shibboleth}}, p. 340</ref>

The title '''''Ñoldóran''''', "King of the Ñoldor", was an other recorded name of Finwë.<ref>{{PM|Shibboleth}}, p. 343</ref> It is apparently a compound of ''[[Noldo]]'' and ''[[aran]]'' ("king").<ref>{{webcite|website=Arda|author=[[Helge Fauskanger]]|articlename=Quettaparma Quenyallo|articleurl=http://folk.uib.no/hnohf/quen-eng.htm}}</ref>

== Genealogy ==
Finwë had two wives. His first was [[Míriel]], who passed away soon after bearing their only child, [[Fëanor]]. His second wife was [[Indis]], of the [[Vanyar]], who bore him two sons: [[Fingolfin]] and [[Finarfin]], and two daughters: [[Findis]] and [[Írimë]].

 
{{familytree/start}}
{{familytree | | | | | | | | | | | |,|-|-|-|.| | | | | |}}
{{familytree | | | | | | | UNF |y| UNK | | ING | | | | |ING=[[Ingwë]]''b. {{YT}}''|UNK=''unknown mother''|UNF=''unknown father''}}
{{familytree | | | | | | | | | |!| | | | | |!| | | | | |}}
{{familytree | MÍR |y| FIN |y| IND | | | | CHI | | | | |FIN='''FINWË'''''d. {{YT|1495}}''|IND=[[Indis]] ''b. {{YT}}''|MÍR=[[Míriel]]''d. {{YT|1170}}''|CHI=''unknown children''}}
{{familytree | | | |!| | | |)|-|-|-|v|-|-|-|v|-|-|-|.| |}}
{{familytree | | | FËA | | FND | | FNG | | IRI | | FNR |FËA=[[Fëanor]]''{{YT|1169}} - {{YT|1497|n}}''|FND=[[Findis]] ''b. {{YT}}''|FNG=[[Fingolfin]]''{{YT|1190}} - {{FA|456}}''|IRI=[[Írimë]] ''b. {{YT}}''|FNR=[[Finarfin]]''b. {{YT|1230}}''}}
{{familytree/end}}
 

== Other Versions of the Legendarium ==

In the first drafts of the genealogy, Finwë had four sons: the youngest was named ''[[Finrun]]'', but he was dropped after that, thus [[Finrod]] (later [[Finarfin]]) was Finwë's youngest son from then on.

In a later version Finwë had three daughters by [[Indis]], [[Findis]] (as their first child) [[Faniel]] (as their third), and [[Finvain]] (as their youngest).<ref>{{PM|XI}}, p. 359 note 26</ref> In yet later versions, Faniel was apparently dropped, while Findis and Finvain were kept. Finvain (renamed [[Írimë]]) was moved to after Fingolfin, thus Finarfin was once again the youngest child of Finwë.

{{references}}

{{seq-start}}
{{seq-head
|race=noldor
|house=[[House of Finwë]]
|born=during the [[Years of the Trees]]
|died={{YT|1495}}
}}
{{seq
|pvac=None
|prev=Position created
|list=[[King of the Noldor]] in [[Valinor]]
|dates={{YT|1102}} – {{YT|1495}}
|next=[[Finarfin]]
}}
{{seq-end}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Finwe}}
[[Category:Characters in The Book of Lost Tales]]
[[Category:Characters in The Silmarillion]]
[[Category:Noldor]]
[[Category:House of Finwë]]
[[Category:Quenya names]]
[[Category:First Age characters]]

[[de:Finwe]]
[[fi:Finwë]]
[[fr:/encyclo/personnages/elfes/noldor/finwe]]