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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;50.240.18.65: /* Beginnings */ Ringil link correction&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig-two|the mythological world created by [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien]]|annual published by [[Forodrim|Arda-sällskapet/Forodrim]]|[[Arda (annual)]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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| image=[[File:Steven White Jr. - Arda001.gif|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
| name=Arda&lt;br /&gt;
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| type=World&lt;br /&gt;
| location=[[Eä]]&lt;br /&gt;
| inhabitants=[[Valar]], [[Maiar]], [[Elves]], [[Men]], [[Dwarves]], etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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| description=The World&lt;br /&gt;
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}}{{Pronounce|Arda.mp3|Ardamir}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Arda&#039;&#039;&#039; ([[Quenya|Q]]: &amp;quot;Realm&amp;quot;, pronounced {{IPA|[ˈarda]}}) was the [[Quenya]] name for the world as a whole, containing the continental masses of [[Middle-earth]] and [[Aman]] in particular.  It lay within [[Eä]] as a creation of [[Ilúvatar|Eru Ilúvatar]].  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Beginnings==&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Years of the Lamps]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Jacek Kopalski - Creation of Arda.jpg|thumb|&#039;&#039;Creation of Arda&#039;&#039; by Jacek Kopalski|left]]&lt;br /&gt;
Arda was first brought into existence with the [[Music of the Ainur]], for the purpose of creating a home for the [[Children of Ilúvatar]].  Ilúvatar appointed the [[Valar]] as its masters, and they invented its geography, for at the time it was largely without feature.  They gave it symmetry and form.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for light source, the Valar decided upon [[two lamps]].  One, a blue light, was placed at the north, and it was called [[Illuin]].  The other, a golden light, was placed at the very southernmost point, and was called [[Ormal]].  [[Aulë]], craftsman of the Valar, forged two towers: [[Helcar]] and [[Ringil (tower)|Ringil]], placed at the north and south  respectively.  The Valar chose as their own home the green isle [[Almaren]].&lt;br /&gt;
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It was at that time that [[Morgoth|Melkor]] made his first attempt, spreading chaos across Arda.  He destroyed the Lamps and the Towers, ruining the symmetry of the world.  Continents formed: especially [[Aman]], [[Endor]], the [[Dark Land]], the [[Hither Lands]], and the [[Land of the Sun]].  So Arda was created.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Geography==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Before the Shifting===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Almaren.png|thumb|Original symmetric shape of Arda with [[Almaren]] in the middle. The [[Iron Mountains]] can be seen on the North, created by [[Morgoth|Melkor]] to protect himself from the Valar.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Arda was originally flat, like a plate.  Encircling the continents was [[Ekkaia]], the Encircling Sea.  Farthest to the West was the great continent of [[Aman]], composed primarily of two geographical features: the [[Plain of Valinor]], and the [[Pelóri]] Mountains.  [[Taniquetil]] was the highest mountain in this range, and in the world.  To the east was the great sea of [[Belegaer]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Across Belegaer, to the north, was [[Endor]], or [[Middle-earth]].  The west side of this land mass was called [[Beleriand]], the north [[Dor Daidelos]], and the east [[Palisor]].  According to [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien]]&#039;s earlier maps, it was in Palisor that there was the great inland [[Sea of Helcar]], and the shores of [[Cuiviénen]].  Middle-earth was dominated by many mountain ranges and forests.&lt;br /&gt;
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To the south of Endor, connected by the [[Straits of the World]], was the [[Hither Lands]] according to Tolkien&#039;s earlier maps.&lt;br /&gt;
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Across the great [[East Sea]]  was the [[Dark Land]], also known as the South Land.&lt;br /&gt;
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To the farthest east possible was the [[Uttermost East]], with a great curved mountain range called the [[Wall of the Sun]].  In the &#039;&#039;[[Ambarkanta]]&#039;&#039; it is called the “&#039;&#039;Dark Land of the Sun&#039;&#039;”.  Corresponding to Taniquetil was the mountain [[Kalormë]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Second Age and Beyond===&lt;br /&gt;
During the tumultuous [[War of Wrath]], the Valar broke and reshaped much of the world.  The most prominent change was the drowning of Beleriand.  Also [[Ossë]] raised [[Andor]] – a large, star-shaped isle – out of Belegaer.  The world was stretched and made into the shape of a sphere.  The continents shifted.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Darrell Sweet - The Fall of Numenor.jpg|thumb|left|200px|&#039;&#039;The Fall of Númenor&#039;&#039; by [[Darrell Sweet]]]]The second great change was the [[Akallabêth|Drowning of Númenor]].  The most significant changes were that Andor sank and Aman was removed from the [[Circles of the World]] – Arda, inaccessible save by the [[Straight Way]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Eschatology==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Elves]] held to the concept of [[Arda Marred]].  In the beginning, at the time of the Music of the Ainur, was [[Arda Unmarred]].  According to the idea of Arda Unmarred, the world was originally “unstained” by evil.  It became Arda Marred after Melkor entered and introduced chaos.  They also clung to the idea that one day the world would become [[Arda Healed]].  According to this belief, Arda Healed will not come about until the [[Dagor Dagorath]], the Last Battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other names==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Arda&#039;&#039; is the [[Quenya]] name of the World, with its atmosphere and the celestial objects. The term [[Ambar]] is roughly equivalent and it probably refers to Earth without the celestial objects. It was also called Kingdom of Earth/Arda/Manwë and Little Kingdom. &lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Adûnaic]] the world was called &#039;&#039;kamât&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;!--sd311--&amp;gt;, &#039;&#039;dāira&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;!--sd247--&amp;gt; or &#039;&#039;aban&#039;&#039; (as in [[Ar-Abattârik]]).{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Valarin]] name, from which Quenya &#039;&#039;Arda&#039;&#039; derived, was &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Aþāraphelūn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;appointed dwelling&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{WJ|AD1}}, p. 401&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tengwa==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Arda (tengwa).gif|left]]&#039;&#039;Arda&#039;&#039; is also the name in Quenya of the twenty-sixth letter of the [[Tengwar]] alphabet.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{App|Letters}}, Note, &#039;&#039;The names of the letters&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It is a modification of &#039;&#039;[[Rómen]]&#039;&#039; (letter 25).  In written Quenya &#039;&#039;Arda&#039;&#039; is used for &#039;&#039;&#039;RD&#039;&#039;&#039;.  In other modes this letter represents voiceless &#039;&#039;&#039;R&#039;&#039;&#039; (or &#039;&#039;&#039;RH&#039;&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{App|Letters}}, Note, &#039;&#039;The additional letters&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The Westron name for this letter is &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Rhó&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Westron Tengwar]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;!-- The extra blank line is needed to prevent the Etymology from being indented. --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==Etymology==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Arda&#039;&#039; derives from the [[Primitive Quendian]] word &#039;&#039;gardā&#039;&#039; meaning &amp;quot;bounded or defined place, region&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{WJ|Quendi}}, pp. 402, 413&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Theories==&lt;br /&gt;
According to the measurements of [[Karen Wynn Fonstad]], flat Arda&#039;s diameter was probably about 6,800 miles.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Karen Wynn Fonstad]], &#039;&#039;[[The Atlas of Middle-earth]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Timeline]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[:Category:Arda]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[:Category:Images of Arda]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{References}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Arda| Arda]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Quenya locations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Quenya nouns]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Tengwar letters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Arda]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fa:آردا]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fi:Arda]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:/encyclo/geographie/astronomie/arda]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Ilúvatar</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;50.240.18.65: /* Melkor/Manwë Source */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I&#039;m curious about something that probably should be placed in this article.  Is Ilúvatar pronounced ILÚ-&#039;&#039;vatar&#039;&#039; or il-Ú-vat-ar?  I had always pronounced it like the latter, but in the Silmarillion audiobook it was given as the former. --[[User:Narfil Palùrfalas|Narfil Palùrfalas]] 13:49, 7 August 2006 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;ve always been terrible with pronunciations but I believe I would say ILÚ-&#039;&#039;vatar&#039;&#039;. It seems [[User:Ardamir|Ardamir]]&#039;s mp3 had been moved to Eru but it is now back at [[Ilúvatar]] to help clarify. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 00:53, 8 August 2006 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Move==&lt;br /&gt;
Well, following our current &amp;quot;one concept=one article&amp;quot;, perhaps we should move this to Eru?--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 16:37, 17 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I follow your drift, and we certainly should not have have two articles for the same concept. However, I&#039;m not certain whether the article should called &amp;quot;Eru&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Ilúvatar&amp;quot;. Which is more appropriate?--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 16:46, 17 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Kind of a tough choice: The Silmarillion index gives them roughly the same importance: no name is redirected to the other. I guess we a couple of options:&lt;br /&gt;
::*&#039;&#039;Frequency&#039;&#039; - which name appears most often?&lt;br /&gt;
::*&#039;&#039;Notoriety&#039;&#039; - a bit subjective, but perhaps &amp;quot;Eru&amp;quot; (being simpler and easier to spell) would win here.&lt;br /&gt;
::*&#039;&#039;Canonicity&#039;&#039; - do both names appear in &#039;&#039;The Lord of the Rings&#039;&#039;?   --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 16:54, 17 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I think we should go for the frequency. Being simpler and easier to spell doesn&#039;t favour &amp;quot;Eru&amp;quot;, in my opinion. And neither &amp;quot;Eru&amp;quot; nor &amp;quot;Ilúvatar&amp;quot; appear in &#039;&#039;The Lord of the Rings&#039;&#039;. However, &amp;quot;Eru&amp;quot; appears 27 times in the main body of text in &#039;&#039;The Silmarillion&#039;&#039;, meanwhile &amp;quot;Ilúvatar&amp;quot; appears 90 times. I think, therefore, that the article should be called &#039;&#039;&#039;Ilúvatar&#039;&#039;&#039;.--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 17:22, 17 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::For my part, I definitely prefer Ilúvatar over Eru as that&#039;s the more commonly-used, but I have no evidence to back this up. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 18:16, 17 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Melkor/Manwë Source ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It is stated in the Ainulindalë (Silmarillion, p. 10) thus: &amp;quot;But Manwë was the brother of Melkor in the mind of Ilúvatar...&amp;quot; as well as in the Valaquenta (Silmarillion, p. 16) thus: &amp;quot;Manwë and Melkor were brethren in the thought of Ilúvatar.&amp;quot; [[Special:Contributions/50.240.18.65|50.240.18.65]] 01:27, 26 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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