Talk:Fingolfin

2012-03-02T14:37:20Z

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One of the other images of Fingolfin should be used at the top. The one selected shows several elves and casual readers will have NO IDEA which one is Fingolfin. One of the depictions of Morgoth/Fingolfin would be more appropriate. Ideas?
[[User:Glorfindel Mk. II|Glorfindel Mk. II]] 18:29, 17 October 2007 (EDT)

Well, the current image is the best and most accurate picture of Fingolfin. In the pictures depicting the duel between Morgoth and Fingolfin, Morgoth occupies most of the picture. And I don't think that the readers will find it too difficult to guess which one is Fingolfin, once they read the article. So I think we should continue using the current image.--[[User:Legolas|Legolas]] 03:36, 18 October 2007 (EDT)

:I agree, it is the best one we have. Fingolfin occupies the main part of this image, so I don't think it will be too hard to know which one is Fingolfin. I don't even know if anyone else was supposed to be anyone else important. --[[User:Narfil Palùrfalas|Narfil Palùrfalas]] 09:55, 18 October 2007 (EDT)

:: Ach. You are both correct that the details of the others are either incorrect or Morgoth is simply too much 'front and center.' Nevertheless, the cartoonish aspects of the image are not too pleasing. Can one of you perhaps go out and do an oil on canvas of Fingolfin? I would but I have little artistic skill.

Cheers [[User:Glorfindel Mk. II|Glorfindel Mk. II]] 16:38, 18 October 2007 (EDT)

I don't know which illiterate keeps putting down that Fingolfin is blonde. It is FINARFIN who is the blonde son of Finwë, not Fingolfin, who is stated to be dark-haired in the works of Tolkien and is represented as such in all art work by legitimate Tolkien artists; i.e. those who are not fanwankers. Is this some kind of Peter Jackson-like site where people can change anything they want about a character just to suit their whims and completely ignore what the author wrote about said character?

Fingolfin

2012-03-02T00:36:36Z

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| image=[[Image:Jenny Dolfen - The Coming of Fingolfin.jpg|250px]]
| name=Fingolfin
| othernames=''Ñolofinwë'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Father-name|fn]]), ''Aracáno'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Amilessë|mn]])
| titles=[[High King of the Noldor]] King of the North
| position=
| realm=[[Tirion]]; [[Hithlum]]
| affiliation=
| language=[[Quenya]] and [[Sindarin]]
| birth={{YT|1190}}
| birthlocation=[[Tirion]]
| rule={{FA|5}} - {{FA|456|n}}
| death={{FA|456}}
| deathlocation=[[Anfauglith]]
| age=3426
| house=[[House of Finwë]]
| parentage=[[Finwë]] and [[Indis]]
| siblings=[[Fëanor]], [[Findis]], [[Irimë]] and [[Finarfin]]
| spouse=[[Anairë]]
| children=[[Fingon]], [[Turgon]], [[Aredhel]] and [[Argon]]
| gender=Male
| height=Tall
| hair=Dark
| eyes=
| clothing=Silver armour, blue shield set with crystals
| weapons=[[Ringil]]
| steed=[[Rochallor]]
}}{{Pronounce|Fingolfin.mp3|Ardamir}}
[[Image:J.R.R. Tolkien - Fingolfin Heraldic Device.jpg|left|100px]]
'''Fingolfin''' ([[Sindarin|S]], pron. {{IPA|[fiŋˈɡolfin]}}) was a [[High King of the Noldor]] in [[Beleriand]], eldest son of [[Finwë]] and [[Indis]], younger brother of [[Findis]], older brother of [[Irimë]] and [[Finarfin]], and the younger half-brother of [[Fëanor]]. His wife was [[Anairë]] and his children were [[Fingon]], [[Turgon]], [[Aredhel]], and [[Argon]].

== History ==
[[Image:Tuuliky - Half Brothers.jpg|thumb|200px|right|''Half Brothers'' by Tuuliky]]
Fingolfin and his older half-brother Fëanor always had a feud between them. During the days of the [[Two Trees]] in [[Valinor]], as [[Melkor]]'s lies were taking their place in Noldor's minds, people started thinking that the [[Valar]] were holding them back from going back to [[Cuiviénen]]. Fëanor was the first to speak against the Valar, and Fingolfin disagreed with him. They were called by [[Finwë]] to resolve the issue. Fëanor arrived fully armed with weapons, and even though Fingolfin accepted him as the older one, Fëanor threatened Fingolfin with his sword, after which Fingolfin bowed to Finwë and left, only to be followed by Fëanor and be threatened again.

After King Finwë died, Fëanor rallied up the Noldor and gave an impassionate speech. Nearly all of the Noldor followed him, along with his two half-brothers. Fingolfin led the largest host of the Ñoldor when they fled [[Aman]] for [[Middle-earth]], even though he thought this unwise; he did not want to abandon his people to Fëanor. As days passed in their exile, more and more of the Noldor started speaking against Fëanor, for their journey was uneasy, and they feared the prophecy of [[Mandos]]. After Noldor acquired the ships of [[Teleri]] following the [[First Kinslaying]], followers of Fëanor were the first to use them to get across the sea. Fëanor burned the ships after arriving to Middle-earh, for he thought the followers of Fingolfin proved to be useless.

Fingolfin and his people saw the smoke of the ships from afar, and chose to travel through the ice desert, for they were ashamed to go back to Valinor, and were angry at Fëanor. Fingolfin took them across the ice of the [[Helcaraxë]], the journey was hard and many died, yet they were filled with hope when they saw the Moon for the first time. And soon after, at the rising of the Sun, he came to the [[Gates of Angband]] and smote upon them, but [[Morgoth]] stayed hidden inside. Fingolfin and the Noldor, realising they can't be victorious this way, then came to the northern shores of [[Lake Mithrim]], from which the Fëanorian part of the host had withdrawn.

His son [[Fingon]] rescued [[Maedhros]], son of [[Fëanor]], who consequently waived his claim to kingship. Thus Fingolfin became High-King of the [[Noldor]]. He ruled from [[Hithlum]], by the northern shores of [[Lake Mithrim]].

[[Image:Ted Nasmith - Morgoth and the High King of Noldor (1992).jpg|thumb|200px|left|''Morgoth and the High King of Noldor'' by [[Ted Nasmith]]]]
After defeating the [[Orcs]] in the [[Dagor Aglareb]] ("Glorious Battle"), Fingolfin maintained the [[Siege of Angband]] for nearly four hundred years. But the Siege was ended by the sudden assaults of Morgoth in the [[Dagor Bragollach]] ("Battle of Sudden Flame"), and many peoples of Beleriand fled. In the end Fingolfin rode to Angband alone to challenge Morgoth to single combat. He rode so fast that those who saw him thought Oromë himself arrived. Fingolfin died there after a mighty duel, wounding Morgoth seven times with his sword [[Ringil]], and struck one last blow to Morgoth's foot before he broke the High King. Morgoth's wounds never healed after that battle, and he limped everafter. [[Thorondor]] the King of Eagles then brought Fingolfin's body to a mountaintop overlooking [[Gondolin]], and [[Turgon]] built a [[Fingolfin's Cairn|cairn]] over the remains of his father.
{{quote|In that vast shadow once of yore Fingolfin stood: his shield he bore with field of heaven’s blue and star of crystal shining pale afar. In overmastering wrath and hate desperate he smote upon that gate, the [[Gnomes|Gnomish]] king, there standing lone, while endless fortresses of stone engulfed the thin clear ringing keen of silver horn and baldric green.|''[[Lay of Leithian]]'', [[Lay of Leithian Canto XII|Canto XII]], lines 3538-3547}}

[[Fingon]] became High King of the [[Noldor]] after his death.

== Etymology ==
Fingolfin's [[father-name]] was '''Ñolofinwë''' ([[Quenya|Q]]: "Wise Finwë", pron. [[Noldorin|N]] {{IPA|[ˌŋoloˈfinwe]}}, [[Vanyarin|V]] {{IPA|[ˌŋoloˈɸinwe]}}, [[Third Age|TA]] [[Exilic Quenya|Exilic]] {{IPA|[ˌnoloˈfinwe]}}). His [[Amilessë|mother-name]] was '''[[Arakáno|Aracáno]]''' ("High Chieftain", pron. {{IPA|[ˌaraˈkaːno]}}). ''Fingolfin'' is the [[Sindarin]] form of his father-name, with the word ''Finwë'' added to the beginning. The addition was done by Fingolfin himself in pursuance of his claim to be [[High King of the Noldor]] after his father's death <ref name="Notes">{{PM|Shibboleth}}, p. 344</ref>

== Genealogy ==
 
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{{familytree| | MIR |~|y|~| FIN |~|~|~|~|y|~|~|~| IND | | | | | | | | | | |FIN=[[Finwë]]|IND=[[Indis]]|MIR=[[Míriel Serindë|Míriel]]}}
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{{familytree| | | | | FEA | | FDS | |!| | | IRM | | FIR | |FIN='''FINGOLFIN'''|FIR=[[Finarfin]]|FEA=[[Fëanor]]|FDS=[[Findis]]|IRM=[[Irimë]]}}
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{{familytree| | | | | | | | | FNG |~|y|~| ANA | | | | | | | | | | |FNG='''FINGOLFIN'''|ANA=[[Anairë]]}}
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{{familytree| | FIN | | ELE |y| TUR | | ARE |y| EOL | | ARG |FIN=[[Fingon]]|ARE=[[Aredhel]]|TUR=[[Turgon]]|ELE=[[Elenwë]]|EOL=[[Eöl]]|ARG=[[Argon]]}}
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{{familytree| | | | TUO |y| IDR | | | | | | MAE | | | | | | |MAE=[[Maeglin]]|IDR=[[Idril]]|TUO=[[Tuor]]}}
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{{familytree| | | | | | EAR | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |EAR=[[Eärendil]]}}
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== See Also ==
* [[:Category:Images of Fingolfin|Images of Fingolfin]]
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[[Category:Rulers in Beleriand]]
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