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Whoever used undo to undo my corrections should read the chapter The Battle at the Pelennor Fields in The Return of the King and should not write speculations in here which are not based on what J.R.R. Tolkien wrote. You can Google for the key words henneth annun Theoden slays the chieftain of the Haradrim in the battle of the Pelennor in order to find the passage in that chapter. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 14:08, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

:Entry "Haradrim", ROTK Index: "''Haradrim (folk, men, peoples of Harad) 319, 862, 886, 1046, 1061, 1069, 1098, 1107, 1111, 1145, 1146, 1159, 1243, 1269, 1368, 1372, 1373, 1374, 1382, 1402, 1425, 1429; champion of 1074; '''chieftain (the black serpent)''' 1099, 1102; men like half-trolls from Far Harad 1107; Men of Near Harad 1374; Southrons 862, 863, 882, 1099, 1107, 1110, 1131, 1253, 1293; dead Southron 863–4; Swarthy Men 1047; Swertings 845, 865''"

Black serpent

2020-09-20T13:57:33Z

88.207.118.108: restoring an older version

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| caption="The Black Serpent founders" by [[Anke Eißmann]]
| pronun=
| othernames=The Serpent Lord
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| affiliation=[[Sauron]]
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'''The Black Serpent''' was the leader of the [[Haradrim]] in the [[Battle of the Pelennor Fields]]. "The Black Serpent" was also the name of the banner under which the Haradrim fought.

==History==
At the [[Battle of the Pelennor Fields]] the great commander of the [[Haradrim]] was called the '''Black Serpent'''. He was slain by King [[Théoden]] of [[Rohan]].<ref>{{RK|V6}}</ref>

==Portrayal in adaptations==
[[Image:SBG - Suludan.gif|200px|thumb|left|Suladân from [[The Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game]]]]
'''1981''': '''[[The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (1981 radio series)]]:'''
:[[Éowyn|Dernhelm]] warns [[Théoden]] of the coming of the Black Serpent. He kills the Serpent, but is killed by the [[Witch-king]] almost immediately after.

'''2001-2010''': '''''[[Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game]]'':'''
:The Black Serpent is given the name '''Suladân''' for the ''[[Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game]]'' based on [[The Lord of the Rings (film series)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (film series)]], in which the leader of the [[Haradrim]] is one of the [[Mûmak]]-riders.<ref>{{GW|Harad}}</ref>

{{references}}

[[Category:Haradrim]]
[[Category:Servants of Sauron]]
[[Category:Third Age characters]]

Írimë

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{{noldor infobox
| name=Írimë
| image=[[File:Marya Filatova - Harvest Festival.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Harvest Festival" by [[:Category:Images by Marya Filatova|Marya Filatova]]
| pronun=
| othernames=''Lalwendë'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Amilessë|mn]]), Lalwen, Írien
| titles=
| position=
| location=[[Aman]], [[Middle-earth]]
| affiliation=[[House of Fingolfin]]
| language=[[Quenya]], [[Sindarin]]
| birth=between {{YT|1190}} and {{YT|1230}}
| birthlocation=[[Tirion]]
| rule=
| death=
| deathlocation=
| age=
| notablefor=
| house=[[House of Finwë]]
| parentage=[[Finwë]] and [[Indis]]
| siblings=[[Fëanor]] (half-brother), ''[[Findis]]'', [[Fingolfin]], and [[Finarfin]]
| spouse=
| children=
| gender=Female
| height=
| hair=
| eyes=
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}}
'''Írimë''' was a [[Noldo|Noldorin]] [[Elves|Elf]] who was the third child and second daughter of [[Finwë]], [[High King of the Noldor]] and [[Indis]], his second wife. She was the sister of ''[[Findis]]'', [[Fingolfin]], and [[Finarfin]], as well as the half-sister of the infamous Noldorin lord [[Fëanor]].<ref name="Shib">{{PM|Shibboleth}}, ''The names of Finwë's descendants''</ref>

==History==
Little is known about Írimë, except that during the [[Exile of the Noldor]] she went to [[Middle-earth]] across the [[Helcaraxë]] with her elder brother Fingolfin of whom she was close to, while the rest of her siblings remained in [[Valinor]]. Írimë's fate is unknown; she may have been slain or returned to [[Aman]] after the [[War of Wrath]].<ref name="Shib"/>

==Etymology==
Írimë's [[Amilessë|mother-name]] was '''''Lalwendë''''' or in shortened form '''''Lalwen''''', and by this name she was generally known.<ref name="Shib"/> In some versions Írimë is called '''''Írien''''' which may have been her [[father-name]].<ref>{{PM|Shibboleth}}, note 28</ref>

==Genealogy==
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{{familytree| MIR |~|y|~| FIN |~|y|~| IND | | | | | | | | | |FIN=[[Finwë]]''d. {{YT|1495}}''|IND=[[Indis]]''b. {{YT}}''|MIR=[[Míriel]]''d. {{YT|1170}}''}}
{{familytree| | | | |!| | | |,|-|^|-|v|-|-|-|v|-|-|-|.| | | |}}
{{familytree| | | | FEA | | FDS | | FIN | | IRM | | FIR | | |FIN=[[Fingolfin]]''{{YT|1190}} - {{FA|456}}''|FIR=[[Finarfin]]''b. {{YT|1230}}''|FEA=[[Fëanor]]''{{YT|1169}} - {{YT|1497|n}}''|FDS=[[Findis]]''b. {{YT}}''|IRM='''ÍRIMË'''''b. {{YT}}''}}
{{familytree/end}}

{{references}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Irime}}

[[Category:House of Finwë]]
[[Category:Quenya names]]
[[Category:Noldor]]
[[Category:First Age characters]]

[[de:Finvain]]
[[fi:Írien]]
[[fr:encyclo/personnages/elfes/noldor/irime]]
[[fr:encyclo/personnages/elfes/noldor/lalwen]]

Írimë

2020-09-20T13:51:50Z

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{{noldor infobox
| name=Írimë
| image=[[[File:424px-Sempn0x_-_Irime.jpg]]]
| caption="Harvest Festival" by [[:Category:Images by Marya Filatova|Marya Filatova]]
| pronun=
| othernames=''Lalwendë'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Amilessë|mn]]), Lalwen, Írien
| titles=
| position=
| location=[[Aman]], [[Middle-earth]]
| affiliation=[[House of Fingolfin]]
| language=[[Quenya]], [[Sindarin]]
| birth=between {{YT|1190}} and {{YT|1230}}
| birthlocation=[[Tirion]]
| rule=
| death=
| deathlocation=
| age=
| notablefor=
| house=[[House of Finwë]]
| parentage=[[Finwë]] and [[Indis]]
| siblings=[[Fëanor]] (half-brother), ''[[Findis]]'', [[Fingolfin]], and [[Finarfin]]
| spouse=
| children=
| gender=Female
| height=
| hair=
| eyes=
| clothing=
| weapons=
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}}
'''Írimë''' was a [[Noldo|Noldorin]] [[Elves|Elf]] who was the third child and second daughter of [[Finwë]], [[High King of the Noldor]] and [[Indis]], his second wife. She was the sister of ''[[Findis]]'', [[Fingolfin]], and [[Finarfin]], as well as the half-sister of the infamous Noldorin lord [[Fëanor]].<ref name="Shib">{{PM|Shibboleth}}, ''The names of Finwë's descendants''</ref>

==History==
Little is known about Írimë, except that during the [[Exile of the Noldor]] she went to [[Middle-earth]] across the [[Helcaraxë]] with her elder brother Fingolfin of whom she was close to, while the rest of her siblings remained in [[Valinor]]. Írimë's fate is unknown; she may have been slain or returned to [[Aman]] after the [[War of Wrath]].<ref name="Shib"/>

==Etymology==
Írimë's [[Amilessë|mother-name]] was '''''Lalwendë''''' or in shortened form '''''Lalwen''''', and by this name she was generally known.<ref name="Shib"/> In some versions Írimë is called '''''Írien''''' which may have been her [[father-name]].<ref>{{PM|Shibboleth}}, note 28</ref>

==Genealogy==
{{familytree/start}}
{{familytree| MIR |~|y|~| FIN |~|y|~| IND | | | | | | | | | |FIN=[[Finwë]]''d. {{YT|1495}}''|IND=[[Indis]]''b. {{YT}}''|MIR=[[Míriel]]''d. {{YT|1170}}''}}
{{familytree| | | | |!| | | |,|-|^|-|v|-|-|-|v|-|-|-|.| | | |}}
{{familytree| | | | FEA | | FDS | | FIN | | IRM | | FIR | | |FIN=[[Fingolfin]]''{{YT|1190}} - {{FA|456}}''|FIR=[[Finarfin]]''b. {{YT|1230}}''|FEA=[[Fëanor]]''{{YT|1169}} - {{YT|1497|n}}''|FDS=[[Findis]]''b. {{YT}}''|IRM='''ÍRIMË'''''b. {{YT}}''}}
{{familytree/end}}

{{references}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Irime}}

[[Category:House of Finwë]]
[[Category:Quenya names]]
[[Category:Noldor]]
[[Category:First Age characters]]

[[de:Finvain]]
[[fi:Írien]]
[[fr:encyclo/personnages/elfes/noldor/irime]]
[[fr:encyclo/personnages/elfes/noldor/lalwen]]