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Letter 246

2026-03-12T22:37:29Z

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{{letter infobox
| #=246
| to=Mrs. Eileen Elgar (drafts)
| date=[[1963#September|September]] [[1963]]
| subject=[[Frodo Baggins|Frodo]]'s "failure" in the [[Cracks of Doom]]
}}{{letter|246}}
This is a draft of a letter that was later sent to [[Letter to Eileen Elgar (September 1963)|Mrs. Elgar on 3 October 1963]], however the posted letter varies significantly from this draft.<ref>{{CG|C}}, p. 608</ref>
==Summary==
In Tolkien's response, he addressed [[Frodo]]'s inability to destroy the [[One Ring|Ring]] voluntarily, explaining that while some readers saw this as a failure, it was, in his words, "a very important point". He noted that the Ring's destruction proceeded from the "logic of the tale" and that Frodo's failure underscored a deeper understanding of nobility. Tolkien did not see Frodo's breakdown as a moral failure, writing, "Clearly Frodo would never have been able to destroy the Ring voluntarily". Instead, his endurance to the limit highlighted true heroism in the face of overwhelming evil.

===Grace and Mercy===
Tolkien saw the quest's outcome as influenced by "grace", a form of divine intervention or providence, where Frodo's journey was completed by "the enhancement of his power by Providence". Tolkien noted that Frodo's "failure" was redeemed by the mercy he had previously shown [[Gollum]], as it ultimately led to the Ring's destruction. Frodo's efforts created a "situation in which the object of his quest could be achieved". Tolkien expanded on this idea of grace by pointing out that individuals have "absolute limits upon our powers of action or endurance" and thus, Frodo's heroism lay in how he exhausted all he could give, even as grace brought about the final victory.

Frodo's limitations emphasised the difference between judging oneself and others. While we strive toward high ideals, we must temper our judgment of others with mercy, recognising individual strengths and weaknesses. Simple minds might view Frodo as a failure, but Tolkien urged readers to avoid that perspective; "Simple minds see Frodo as a 'failure' for not enduring to the end". He advised that this view "contains a fallacy: we must pursue an absolute ideal without compromise for ourselves, but for others, we must temper our judgment with mercy". Frodo achieved the utmost he was capable of, a form of heroic endurance that challenges a simplistic view of success or failure.

===Sam's Limited Perspective===
Samwise Gamgee exemplified a more limited view of the quest and Frodo's actions, particularly his mercy toward Gollum. Tolkien observed that Sam was a "little conceited" but that his loyalty had transformed this quality into devoted protection of Frodo. However, Sam's inability to understand Frodo's pity toward Gollum became, for Tolkien, the story's "most tragic moment". Tolkien explained that when Sam "failed to note the complete change in Gollum's tone and aspect" he "blighted" Gollum's potential repentance,<ref>{{TT|IV8}}</ref> setting in motion the events leading to [[Shelob's Lair]] and further trials.

===Gollum's Possible Redemption===
Tolkien speculated on what might have happened had Gollum been redeemed through love for Frodo. He mused that Gollum, if driven by a conflict between his love for Frodo and the Ring's pull, might have "voluntarily cast himself into the fire" as a final act of service to Frodo. Tolkien imagined that if Gollum had glimpsed [[Sauron]]'s evil and recognised his own inability to wield the Ring, he might have chosen to destroy it and himself as an ultimate sacrifice. In such a scenario, Frodo's "revelation of Gollum" would have led him to understand the full nature of the Ring's evil, but this revelation only came about through Gollum's sudden intervention, guided by the hand of grace rather than pure intention.

===Frodo Claiming the Ring===
In an alternative sequence Tolkien claimed to have considered, Frodo might have claimed the Ring and faced the [[Ringwraiths]] directly, who would have attempted to sway him by feigning obedience due to their allegiance to the Ring's master. Tolkien likened this scenario to "a small brave man with a devastating weapon facing eight savage warriors of great strength and agility". Frodo's unfamiliarity with the Ring would render him vulnerable to their manipulation. The Ringwraiths would likely call him "Lord" and lead him to "go look upon his new kingdom" waiting for the inevitable moment when Sauron would reclaim the Ring.

===The Rings Influence on Others===
Tolkien also reflected on the consequences for [[Gandalf]] or [[Galadriel]] if either had attempted to wield the Ring. In [[Lothlórien]] [[Galadriel]] appeared to believe that she could wield the Ring and supplant Sauron<ref>{{FR|II8}}</ref> but she knew it was not so; her rejection of the Ring was based on previous thought and resolve. Had she or Elrond used the Ring they would have built great armies under absolutely subservient generals and gone to destroy Sauron by force.
Gandalf as Ring-lord would have been a contest between the Ring's true allegiance to Sauron versus Gandalf's actually possession of the Ring. But if Gandalf had been the victor it would have been far worse than Sauron winning. The "righteous" Gandalf would have become self-righteous, ruling and ordering things for "good" until he had made good detestable and seem evil.

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Paul Corfield Godfrey

2025-06-11T18:14:32Z

Onthetrail:

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| name=Paul Corfield Godfrey
| born=1950
| died=
| education=
| occupation=Composer
| location=Wales, United Kingdom
| website=https://www.paulcorfieldgodfrey.co.uk/
}}
'''Paul Corfield Godfrey''' is a British musician and composer of most notably, operatic adaptations utilising the words of [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] with the permission of the [[Tolkien Estate]].

His ''Epic Scenes from The Silmarillion after the mythology of J.R.R. Tolkien -'' a cycle of operatic works originally written between 1980 and 1994 consisted of ''[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Opera)|Op. 46 - Fëanor]]'', ''[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Opera)|Op. 47. Beren and Lúthien]]'', ''[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Opera)|Op. 48 - The Children of Húrin]]'' and ''[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op.49 (Opera)|Op. 49 - The Fall of Gondolin]].'' The libretti for these works were compiled with the assistance of Christopher Tolkien who supplied Godfrey with, at that point in time, unpublished versions of some of the texts to help expand the words of ''The Silmarillion'' into a more dramatic form.

[[Priscilla Tolkien]] hosted an event for [[The Tolkien Society]] in 1982 where a small ensemble of singers performed highlights from ''The Children of Húrin'' to the assembled members at the [[Oxonmoot]]. Priscilla herself joined the choir for the occasion.

The operas sat unperformed until 2018 when Volante Opera Productions undertook the process of creating demo recordings of the works. During this process, Godfrey was persuaded to compose a final part to ''The Silmarillion'' to finish off the tales which was subsequently recorded. This fifth and final part was entitled ''[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Opera)|Op. 71. The War of Wrath]]'' was completed in 2020.

In total, the cycle has a duration of approximately ten and a half hours, has a cast of 48 characters and 55 scenes.

In 2024 the Tolkien Estate also granted the rights to his operatic cycles [[Musical chapters from The Lord of the Rings after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien, Op. 73]] and [[Musical Chapters from The Hobbit after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien, Op. 8]]. In May 2025, [[Musical chapters from The Lord of the Rings]] was made avaiable for pre-order.<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/15-cd-album-of-musical-chapter-from-the-lord-of-the-rings</ref> The work will be released on 5 September 2025.<ref>https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2025/05/05/120390-exclusive-lord-of-the-rings-opera-available-for-pre-order/</ref>

Other authorised works include ''[[Tolkien Songs, Op. 9|Op. 9 - Tolkien Songs]]'', ''[[Shadow-Bride, Op. 36 (Song)|Op. 33 - Shadow-Bride]]'', ''[[Symphony No. 3 Ainulindalë, Op. 42|Op. 36 - Symphony No. 3 Ainulindalë]]'', ''[[Akallabêth (for solo piano), Op. 42|Op. 42 - Akallabêth (for solo piano)]]'', ''[[Akallabêth (for orchestra), Op. 42a|Op. 42a - Akallabêth (for Orchestra)]]'' and ''[[Daeron, Op. 45 (Flute and Piano)|Op. 45 - Daeron]].'' In 2025 Prima Facia released ''Variations and Episodes for solo piano''. Among the works included are various pieces adapted from the works of J. R. R. Tolkien. "Piano Rondo: “Akallabêth”, Wedding March from “The Fall of Gondolin” and Piano Episode: “The Passing of Arwen” are musically connected Appendices to the larger works Epic Scenes and Musical Chapters from “The Silmarillion”, “The Hobbit” and “The Lord of the Rings” after the mythology of JRR Tolkien"<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/variations-and-episodes-for-solo-piano-by-paul-corfield-godfrey-score</ref>
There are also suites and concert performable highlights from each of the component parts of ''The Silmarillion.''

==Tolkien Related Works==
*[[Akallabêth and other Tolkien works (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/akallabeth-and-other-tolkien-works</ref> (Prima Facie 2017)
*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op.49 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-fall-of-gondolin-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2018)
*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/beren-and-luthien-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2019)
*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-children-of-hurin-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2020)
*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/feanor-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2022)
*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-war-of-wrath-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2023)
*[[Epic Scenes from The Silmarillion after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien (Complete)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/complete-silmarillion-box-set-10-cd-set</ref> (Prima Facie 2023)
*[[Variations and Episodes for solo piano]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/variations-and-episodes-for-solo-piano-by-paul-corfield-godfrey-cd</ref> (Prima Facia 2025)
*[https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/15-cd-album-of-musical-chapter-from-the-lord-of-the-rings The Lord of the Rings] (Prima Facia) [available 5 September, 2025]

==Scores==
'''Epic Scenes from ''The Silmarillion'' after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien:'''

*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/feanor-vocal-score</ref>
*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/feanor-full-score</ref>

*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/beren-and-luthien-vocal-score</ref>
*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/beren-and-luthien-full-score</ref>

*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-children-of-hurin-vocal-score</ref>
*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-children-of-hurin-full-score</ref>

*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op. 49 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-fall-of-gondolin-vocal-score</ref>
*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op. 49 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-fall-of-gondolin-full-score</ref>

*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-war-of-wrath-vocal-score</ref>
*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-war-of-wrath-full-score</ref>

*'''[[Akallabêth and other Tolkien Works (Collected Edition Score)]]'''<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/akallab%C3%AAth-and-other-tolkien-works-collected-edition-score</ref>

*[[Variations and Episodes for solo piano]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/variations-and-episodes-for-solo-piano-by-paul-corfield-godfrey-score</ref>

==Articles==
*[[Amon Hen 159|''Amon Hen'' 159]]
**Operas of ''The Silmarillion''
*[[Lembas Extra 2022|''Lembas Extra'' 2022: Númenor]]
**"The Second Age: A beginning and an end
*[https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tolkien Proceedings of the Tolkien 2019 Conference]
**Setting ''The Silmarillion'' to Music**

==External links==
*[https://www.paulcorfieldgodfrey.co.uk/ Official Site]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrspOqgX62U Adapting Tolkien: Composer Paul Corfield Godfrey on his musical adaptation of ''The Silmarillion'']
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0xnCDMtJnE Musical Chapters from The Lord of the Rings - Full Trailer]
*[https://tolkienlibrary.com/press/956-interview-with-paul-corfield-godfrey.php Interview with Paul Corfield Godfreyl] at tolkienlibrary.com.

{{references}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Godfrey, Paul Corfield}}
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[[Category:Classical music]]
[[Category:Composers]]
[[Category:People by name]]

Paul Corfield Godfrey

2025-06-11T18:13:36Z

Onthetrail:

__NOTOC__{{author infobox
| image=
| name=Paul Corfield Godfrey
| born=1950
| died=
| education=
| occupation=Composer
| location=Wales, United Kingdom
| website=https://www.paulcorfieldgodfrey.co.uk/
}}
'''Paul Corfield Godfrey''' is a British musician and composer of most notably, operatic adaptations utilising the words of [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] with the permission of the [[Tolkien Estate]].

His ''Epic Scenes from The Silmarillion after the mythology of J.R.R. Tolkien -'' a cycle of operatic works originally written between 1980 and 1994 consisted of ''[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Opera)|Op. 46 - Fëanor]]'', ''[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Opera)|Op. 47. Beren and Lúthien]]'', ''[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Opera)|Op. 48 - The Children of Húrin]]'' and ''[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op.49 (Opera)|Op. 49 - The Fall of Gondolin]].'' The libretti for these works were compiled with the assistance of Christopher Tolkien who supplied Godfrey with, at that point in time, unpublished versions of some of the texts to help expand the words of ''The Silmarillion'' into a more dramatic form.

[[Priscilla Tolkien]] hosted an event for [[The Tolkien Society]] in 1982 where a small ensemble of singers performed highlights from ''The Children of Húrin'' to the assembled members at the [[Oxonmoot]]. Priscilla herself joined the choir for the occasion.

The operas sat unperformed until 2018 when Volante Opera Productions undertook the process of creating demo recordings of the works. During this process, Godfrey was persuaded to compose a final part to ''The Silmarillion'' to finish off the tales which was subsequently recorded. This fifth and final part was entitled ''[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Opera)|Op. 71. The War of Wrath]]'' was completed in 2020.

In total, the cycle has a duration of approximately ten and a half hours, has a cast of 48 characters and 55 scenes.

In 2024 the Tolkien Estate also granted the rights to his operatic cycles [[Musical chapters from The Lord of the Rings after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien, Op. 73]] and [[Musical Chapters from The Hobbit after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien, Op. 8]]. In May 2025, [[Musical chapters from The Lord of the Rings]] was made avaiable for pre-order.<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/15-cd-album-of-musical-chapter-from-the-lord-of-the-rings</ref> The work will be released on 5 September 2025.<ref>https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2025/05/05/120390-exclusive-lord-of-the-rings-opera-available-for-pre-order/</ref>

Other authorised works include ''[[Tolkien Songs, Op. 9|Op. 9 - Tolkien Songs]]'', ''[[Shadow-Bride, Op. 36 (Song)|Op. 33 - Shadow-Bride]]'', ''[[Symphony No. 3 Ainulindalë, Op. 42|Op. 36 - Symphony No. 3 Ainulindalë]]'', ''[[Akallabêth (for solo piano), Op. 42|Op. 42 - Akallabêth (for solo piano)]]'', ''[[Akallabêth (for orchestra), Op. 42a|Op. 42a - Akallabêth (for Orchestra)]]'' and ''[[Daeron, Op. 45 (Flute and Piano)|Op. 45 - Daeron]].'' In 2025 Prima Facia released ''Variations and Episodes for solo piano''. Among the works included are various pieces adapted from the works of J. R. R. Tolkien. "Piano Rondo: “Akallabêth”, Wedding March from “The Fall of Gondolin” and Piano Episode: “The Passing of Arwen” are musically connected Appendices to the larger works Epic Scenes and Musical Chapters from “The Silmarillion”, “The Hobbit” and “The Lord of the Rings” after the mythology of JRR Tolkien"<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/variations-and-episodes-for-solo-piano-by-paul-corfield-godfrey-score</ref>
There are also suites and concert performable highlights from each of the component parts of ''The Silmarillion.''

==Tolkien Related Works==
*[[Akallabêth and other Tolkien works (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/akallabeth-and-other-tolkien-works</ref> (Prima Facie 2017)
*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op.49 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-fall-of-gondolin-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2018)
*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/beren-and-luthien-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2019)
*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-children-of-hurin-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2020)
*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/feanor-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2022)
*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-war-of-wrath-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2023)
*[[Epic Scenes from The Silmarillion after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien (Complete)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/complete-silmarillion-box-set-10-cd-set</ref> (Prima Facie 2023)
*[[Variations and Episodes for solo piano]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/variations-and-episodes-for-solo-piano-by-paul-corfield-godfrey-cd</ref> (Prima Facia 2025)
*[https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/15-cd-album-of-musical-chapter-from-the-lord-of-the-rings The Lord of the Rings] (Prima Facia) [available 5 September, 2025]

==Scores==
'''Epic Scenes from ''The Silmarillion'' after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien:'''

*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/feanor-vocal-score</ref>
*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/feanor-full-score</ref>

*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/beren-and-luthien-vocal-score</ref>
*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/beren-and-luthien-full-score</ref>

*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-children-of-hurin-vocal-score</ref>
*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-children-of-hurin-full-score</ref>

*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op. 49 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-fall-of-gondolin-vocal-score</ref>
*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op. 49 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-fall-of-gondolin-full-score</ref>

*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-war-of-wrath-vocal-score</ref>
*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-war-of-wrath-full-score</ref>

*'''[[Akallabêth and other Tolkien Works (Collected Edition Score)]]'''<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/akallab%C3%AAth-and-other-tolkien-works-collected-edition-score</ref>

*[[Variations and Episodes for solo piano]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/variations-and-episodes-for-solo-piano-by-paul-corfield-godfrey-score</ref>

==Articles==
*[[Amon Hen 159|''Amon Hen'' 159]]
**Operas of ''The Silmarillion''
*[[Lembas Extra 2022|''Lembas Extra'' 2022: Númenor]]
**"The Second Age: A beginning and an end
*[https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tolkien 2019|Proceedings of the Tolkien 2019 Conference]
**Setting ''The Silmarillion'' to Music**

==External links==
*[https://www.paulcorfieldgodfrey.co.uk/ Official Site]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrspOqgX62U Adapting Tolkien: Composer Paul Corfield Godfrey on his musical adaptation of ''The Silmarillion'']
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0xnCDMtJnE Musical Chapters from The Lord of the Rings - Full Trailer]
*[https://tolkienlibrary.com/press/956-interview-with-paul-corfield-godfrey.php Interview with Paul Corfield Godfreyl] at tolkienlibrary.com.

{{references}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Godfrey, Paul Corfield}}
[[Category:British people]]
[[Category:Classical music]]
[[Category:Composers]]
[[Category:People by name]]

Paul Corfield Godfrey

2025-06-11T18:11:50Z

Onthetrail: Correction

__NOTOC__{{author infobox
| image=
| name=Paul Corfield Godfrey
| born=1950
| died=
| education=
| occupation=Composer
| location=Wales, United Kingdom
| website=https://www.paulcorfieldgodfrey.co.uk/
}}
'''Paul Corfield Godfrey''' is a British musician and composer of most notably, operatic adaptations utilising the words of [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] with the permission of the [[Tolkien Estate]].

His ''Epic Scenes from The Silmarillion after the mythology of J.R.R. Tolkien -'' a cycle of operatic works originally written between 1980 and 1994 consisted of ''[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Opera)|Op. 46 - Fëanor]]'', ''[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Opera)|Op. 47. Beren and Lúthien]]'', ''[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Opera)|Op. 48 - The Children of Húrin]]'' and ''[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op.49 (Opera)|Op. 49 - The Fall of Gondolin]].'' The libretti for these works were compiled with the assistance of Christopher Tolkien who supplied Godfrey with, at that point in time, unpublished versions of some of the texts to help expand the words of ''The Silmarillion'' into a more dramatic form.

[[Priscilla Tolkien]] hosted an event for [[The Tolkien Society]] in 1982 where a small ensemble of singers performed highlights from ''The Children of Húrin'' to the assembled members at the [[Oxonmoot]]. Priscilla herself joined the choir for the occasion.

The operas sat unperformed until 2018 when Volante Opera Productions undertook the process of creating demo recordings of the works. During this process, Godfrey was persuaded to compose a final part to ''The Silmarillion'' to finish off the tales which was subsequently recorded. This fifth and final part was entitled ''[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Opera)|Op. 71. The War of Wrath]]'' was completed in 2020.

In total, the cycle has a duration of approximately ten and a half hours, has a cast of 48 characters and 55 scenes.

In 2024 the Tolkien Estate also granted the rights to his operatic cycles [[Musical chapters from The Lord of the Rings after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien, Op. 73]] and [[Musical Chapters from The Hobbit after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien, Op. 8]]. In May 2025, [[Musical chapters from The Lord of the Rings]] was made avaiable for pre-order.<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/15-cd-album-of-musical-chapter-from-the-lord-of-the-rings</ref> The work will be released on 5 September 2025.<ref>https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2025/05/05/120390-exclusive-lord-of-the-rings-opera-available-for-pre-order/</ref>

Other authorised works include ''[[Tolkien Songs, Op. 9|Op. 9 - Tolkien Songs]]'', ''[[Shadow-Bride, Op. 36 (Song)|Op. 33 - Shadow-Bride]]'', ''[[Symphony No. 3 Ainulindalë, Op. 42|Op. 36 - Symphony No. 3 Ainulindalë]]'', ''[[Akallabêth (for solo piano), Op. 42|Op. 42 - Akallabêth (for solo piano)]]'', ''[[Akallabêth (for orchestra), Op. 42a|Op. 42a - Akallabêth (for Orchestra)]]'' and ''[[Daeron, Op. 45 (Flute and Piano)|Op. 45 - Daeron]].'' In 2025 Prima Facia released ''Variations and Episodes for solo piano''. Among the works included are various pieces adapted from the works of J. R. R. Tolkien. "Piano Rondo: “Akallabêth”, Wedding March from “The Fall of Gondolin” and Piano Episode: “The Passing of Arwen” are musically connected Appendices to the larger works Epic Scenes and Musical Chapters from “The Silmarillion”, “The Hobbit” and “The Lord of the Rings” after the mythology of JRR Tolkien"<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/variations-and-episodes-for-solo-piano-by-paul-corfield-godfrey-score</ref>
There are also suites and concert performable highlights from each of the component parts of ''The Silmarillion.''

==Tolkien Related Works==
*[[Akallabêth and other Tolkien works (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/akallabeth-and-other-tolkien-works</ref> (Prima Facie 2017)
*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op.49 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-fall-of-gondolin-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2018)
*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/beren-and-luthien-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2019)
*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-children-of-hurin-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2020)
*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/feanor-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2022)
*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-war-of-wrath-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2023)
*[[Epic Scenes from The Silmarillion after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien (Complete)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/complete-silmarillion-box-set-10-cd-set</ref> (Prima Facie 2023)
*[[Variations and Episodes for solo piano]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/variations-and-episodes-for-solo-piano-by-paul-corfield-godfrey-cd</ref> (Prima Facia 2025)
*[https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/15-cd-album-of-musical-chapter-from-the-lord-of-the-rings The Lord of the Rings] (Prima Facia) [available 5 September, 2025]

==Scores==
'''Epic Scenes from ''The Silmarillion'' after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien:'''

*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/feanor-vocal-score</ref>
*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/feanor-full-score</ref>

*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/beren-and-luthien-vocal-score</ref>
*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/beren-and-luthien-full-score</ref>

*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-children-of-hurin-vocal-score</ref>
*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-children-of-hurin-full-score</ref>

*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op. 49 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-fall-of-gondolin-vocal-score</ref>
*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op. 49 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-fall-of-gondolin-full-score</ref>

*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-war-of-wrath-vocal-score</ref>
*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-war-of-wrath-full-score</ref>

*'''[[Akallabêth and other Tolkien Works (Collected Edition Score)]]'''<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/akallab%C3%AAth-and-other-tolkien-works-collected-edition-score</ref>

*[[Variations and Episodes for solo piano]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/variations-and-episodes-for-solo-piano-by-paul-corfield-godfrey-score</ref>

==Articles==
*[[Amon Hen 159|''Amon Hen'' 159]]
**Operas of ''The Silmarillion''
*[[Lembas Extra 2022|''Lembas Extra'' 2022: Númenor]]
**"The Second Age: A beginning and an end
*[[https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tolkien 2019|Proceedings of the Tolkien 2019 Conference]]
**Setting ''The Silmarillion'' to Music**

==External links==
*[https://www.paulcorfieldgodfrey.co.uk/ Official Site]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrspOqgX62U Adapting Tolkien: Composer Paul Corfield Godfrey on his musical adaptation of ''The Silmarillion'']
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0xnCDMtJnE Musical Chapters from The Lord of the Rings - Full Trailer]
*[https://tolkienlibrary.com/press/956-interview-with-paul-corfield-godfrey.php Interview with Paul Corfield Godfreyl] at tolkienlibrary.com.

{{references}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Godfrey, Paul Corfield}}
[[Category:British people]]
[[Category:Classical music]]
[[Category:Composers]]
[[Category:People by name]]

Paul Corfield Godfrey

2025-06-11T18:09:13Z

Onthetrail: Various references and updated details

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'''Paul Corfield Godfrey''' is a British musician and composer of most notably, operatic adaptations utilising the words of [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] with the permission of the [[Tolkien Estate]].

His ''Epic Scenes from The Silmarillion after the mythology of J.R.R. Tolkien -'' a cycle of operatic works originally written between 1980 and 1994 consisted of ''[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Opera)|Op. 46 - Fëanor]]'', ''[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Opera)|Op. 47. Beren and Lúthien]]'', ''[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Opera)|Op. 48 - The Children of Húrin]]'' and ''[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op.49 (Opera)|Op. 49 - The Fall of Gondolin]].'' The libretti for these works were compiled with the assistance of Christopher Tolkien who supplied Godfrey with, at that point in time, unpublished versions of some of the texts to help expand the words of ''The Silmarillion'' into a more dramatic form.

[[Priscilla Tolkien]] hosted an event for [[The Tolkien Society]] in 1982 where a small ensemble of singers performed highlights from ''The Children of Húrin'' to the assembled members at the [[Oxonmoot]]. Priscilla herself joined the choir for the occasion.

The operas sat unperformed until 2018 when Volante Opera Productions undertook the process of creating demo recordings of the works. During this process, Godfrey was persuaded to compose a final part to ''The Silmarillion'' to finish off the tales which was subsequently recorded. This fifth and final part was entitled ''[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Opera)|Op. 71. The War of Wrath]]'' was completed in 2020.

In total, the cycle has a duration of approximately ten and a half hours, has a cast of 48 characters and 55 scenes.

In 2024 the Tolkien Estate also granted the rights to his operatic cycles [[Musical chapters from The Lord of the Rings after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien, Op. 73]] and [[Musical Chapters from The Hobbit after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien, Op. 8]]. In May 2025, [[Musical chapters from The Lord of the Rings]] was made avaiable for pre-order.<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/15-cd-album-of-musical-chapter-from-the-lord-of-the-rings</ref> The work will be released on 5 September 2025.<ref>https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2025/05/05/120390-exclusive-lord-of-the-rings-opera-available-for-pre-order/</ref>

Other authorised works include ''[[Tolkien Songs, Op. 9|Op. 9 - Tolkien Songs]]'', ''[[Shadow-Bride, Op. 36 (Song)|Op. 33 - Shadow-Bride]]'', ''[[Symphony No. 3 Ainulindalë, Op. 42|Op. 36 - Symphony No. 3 Ainulindalë]]'', ''[[Akallabêth (for solo piano), Op. 42|Op. 42 - Akallabêth (for solo piano)]]'', ''[[Akallabêth (for orchestra), Op. 42a|Op. 42a - Akallabêth (for Orchestra)]]'' and ''[[Daeron, Op. 45 (Flute and Piano)|Op. 45 - Daeron]].'' In 2025 Prima Facia released ''Variations and Episodes for solo piano''. Among the works included are various pieces adapted from the works of J. R. R. Tolkien. "Piano Rondo: “Akallabêth”, Wedding March from “The Fall of Gondolin” and Piano Episode: “The Passing of Arwen” are musically connected Appendices to the larger works Epic Scenes and Musical Chapters from “The Silmarillion”, “The Hobbit” and “The Lord of the Rings” after the mythology of JRR Tolkien"<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/variations-and-episodes-for-solo-piano-by-paul-corfield-godfrey-score</ref>
There are also suites and concert performable highlights from each of the component parts of ''The Silmarillion.''

==Tolkien Related Works==
*[[Akallabêth and other Tolkien works (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/akallabeth-and-other-tolkien-works</ref> (Prima Facie 2017)
*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op.49 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-fall-of-gondolin-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2018)
*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/beren-and-luthien-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2019)
*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-children-of-hurin-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2020)
*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/feanor-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2022)
*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Album)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-war-of-wrath-double-cd</ref> (Prima Facie 2023)
*[[Epic Scenes from The Silmarillion after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien (Complete)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/complete-silmarillion-box-set-10-cd-set</ref> (Prima Facie 2023)
*[[Variations and Episodes for solo piano]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/variations-and-episodes-for-solo-piano-by-paul-corfield-godfrey-cd</ref> (Prima Facia 2025)
*[https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/15-cd-album-of-musical-chapter-from-the-lord-of-the-rings The Lord of the Rings] (Prima Facia) [available 5 September, 2025]

==Scores==
'''Epic Scenes from ''The Silmarillion'' after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien:'''

*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/feanor-vocal-score</ref>
*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/feanor-full-score</ref>

*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/beren-and-luthien-vocal-score</ref>
*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/beren-and-luthien-full-score</ref>

*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-children-of-hurin-vocal-score</ref>
*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-children-of-hurin-full-score</ref>

*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op. 49 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-fall-of-gondolin-vocal-score</ref>
*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op. 49 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-fall-of-gondolin-full-score</ref>

*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Vocal Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-war-of-wrath-vocal-score</ref>
*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Full Score)]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/the-war-of-wrath-full-score</ref>

*'''[[Akallabêth and other Tolkien Works (Collected Edition Score)]]'''<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/akallab%C3%AAth-and-other-tolkien-works-collected-edition-score</ref>

*[[Variations and Episodes for solo piano]]<ref>https://www.volanteopera.wales/product-page/variations-and-episodes-for-solo-piano-by-paul-corfield-godfrey-score</ref>

==Articles==
*[[Amon Hen 159|''Amon Hen'' 159]]
**Operas of ''The Silmarillion''
*[[Lembas Extra 2022|''Lembas Extra'' 2022: Númenor]]
**"The Second Age: A beginning and an end
**[[https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tolkien 2019|Proceedings of the Tolkien 2019 Conference]]
**Setting ''The Silmarillion'' to Music**

==External links==
*[https://www.paulcorfieldgodfrey.co.uk/ Official Site]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrspOqgX62U Adapting Tolkien: Composer Paul Corfield Godfrey on his musical adaptation of ''The Silmarillion'']
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0xnCDMtJnE Musical Chapters from The Lord of the Rings - Full Trailer]
*[https://tolkienlibrary.com/press/956-interview-with-paul-corfield-godfrey.php Interview with Paul Corfield Godfreyl] at tolkienlibrary.com.

{{references}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Godfrey, Paul Corfield}}
[[Category:British people]]
[[Category:Classical music]]
[[Category:Composers]]
[[Category:People by name]]

Paul Corfield Godfrey

2025-06-11T16:27:43Z

Onthetrail: basic changes. The page is out of date and I will update it soon.

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| born=1950
| died=
| education=
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'''Paul Corfield Godfrey''' is a British musician and composer of most notably, operatic adaptations utilising the words of [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] with the permission of the [[Tolkien Estate]].

His ''Epic Scenes from The Silmarillion after the mythology of J.R.R. Tolkien -'' a cycle of operatic works originally written between 1980 and 1994 consisted of ''[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Opera)|Op. 46 - Fëanor]]'', ''[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Opera)|Op. 47. Beren and Lúthien]]'', ''[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Opera)|Op. 48 - The Children of Húrin]]'' and ''[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op.49 (Opera)|Op. 49 - The Fall of Gondolin]].'' The libretti for these works were compiled with the assistance of Christopher Tolkien who supplied Godfrey with, at that point in time, unpublished versions of some of the texts to help expand the words of ''The Silmarillion'' into a more dramatic form.

[[Priscilla Tolkien]] hosted an event for [[The Tolkien Society]] in 1982 where a small ensemble of singers performed highlights from ''The Children of Húrin'' to the assembled members at the [[Oxonmoot]]. Priscilla herself joined the choir for the occasion.

The operas sat unperformed until 2018 when Volante Opera Productions undertook the process of creating demo recordings of the works. During this process, Godfrey was persuaded to compose a final part to ''The Silmarillion'' to finish off the tales which was subsequently recorded. This fifth and final part was entitled ''[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Opera)|Op. 71. The War of Wrath]]'' was completed in 2020.

In total, the cycle has a duration of approximately ten and a half hours, has a cast of 48 characters and 55 scenes.

In 2024 the Tolkien Estate also granted the rights to his operatic cycles [[Musical chapters from The Lord of the Rings after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien, Op. 73]] and [[Musical Chapters from The Hobbit after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien, Op. 8]].

Other authorised works currently include ''[[Tolkien Songs, Op. 9|Op. 9 - Tolkien Songs]]'', ''[[Shadow-Bride, Op. 36 (Song)|Op. 33 - Shadow-Bride]]'', ''[[Symphony No. 3 Ainulindalë, Op. 42|Op. 36 - Symphony No. 3 Ainulindalë]]'', ''[[Akallabêth (for solo piano), Op. 42|Op. 42 - Akallabêth (for solo piano)]]'', ''[[Akallabêth (for orchestra), Op. 42a|Op. 42a - Akallabêth (for Orchestra)]]'' and ''[[Daeron, Op. 45 (Flute and Piano)|Op. 45 - Daeron]].'' There are also suites and concert performable highlights from each of the component parts of ''The Silmarillion.''

==Tolkien Related Works==
*[[Akallabêth and other Tolkien works (Album)]] (Prima Facie 2017)
*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op.49 (Album)]] (Prima Facie 2018)
*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Album)]] (Prima Facie 2019)
*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Album)]] (Prima Facie 2020)
*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Album)]] (Prima Facie 2022)
*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Album)]] (Prima Facie 2023)
*[[Epic Scenes from The Silmarillion after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien (Complete)]] (Prima Facie 2023)

==Scores==
'''Epic Scenes from ''The Silmarillion'' after the mythology of J. R. R. Tolkien:'''

*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Vocal Score)]]
*[[Fëanor, Op. 46 (Full Score)]]

*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Vocal Score)]]
*[[Beren and Lúthien, Op. 47 (Full Score)]]

*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Vocal Score)]]
*[[The Children of Húrin, Op. 48 (Full Score)]]

*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op. 49 (Vocal Score)]]
*[[The Fall of Gondolin, Op. 49 (Full Score)]]

*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Vocal Score)]]
*[[The War of Wrath, Op. 71 (Full Score)]]

*'''[[Akallabêth and other Tolkien Works (Collected Edition Score)]]'''

==Articles==
*[[Amon Hen 159|''Amon Hen'' 159]]
**Operas of ''The Silmarillion''
*[[Lembas Extra 2022|''Lembas Extra'' 2022: Númenor]]
**"The Second Age: A beginning and an end

==External links==
*[https://www.paulcorfieldgodfrey.co.uk/ Official Site]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrspOqgX62U Adapting Tolkien: Composer Paul Corfield Godfrey on his musical adaptation of ''The Silmarillion'']
*[https://tolkienlibrary.com/press/956-interview-with-paul-corfield-godfrey.php Interview with Paul Corfield Godfreyl] at tolkienlibrary.com.

{{references}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Godfrey, Paul Corfield}}
[[Category:British people]]
[[Category:Classical music]]
[[Category:Composers]]
[[Category:People by name]]

Talk:Letters not published in The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien

2024-03-20T00:41:46Z

Onthetrail: Reply

In the television program Glenn Beck, Paul E. Kerry quote two letters, but dont provide dates and more informations. Someone here could find that?

Quote letter 1

"I have no confidence in my work, except thatforced on me by entirely unexprected sucess.'A urest book', they say and expect, and that alarms me. (My heart is/was in my work,but not on my sleeve, and I have no relishat all for having it stripped bate."

Quote letter 2

"they actually emerged onto paper.The Hobbit was written for this children."They liked it. They weren't absolutelywild about it. They quite liked it" Thenit was lent, in manuscript, to the ReverendMother of Cherwell Edge, a women's hostel, duringher illness. A girl at the hostel read it too;She went to work for Allen and Unwin." ([[User:Sigurd|Sigurd]] 07:29, 20 April 2014 (UTC))

::According to Alan Reynolds "The second quote is from a letter to Wh Auden; it's Letter no, 163 in the book of letters. I don't know where the first quote comes from; it might be no.163 - I've skimmed it quickly, but it's a long letter". ([[User:Sigurd|Sigurd]] 11:05, 22 July 2015 (UTC))

:::It's similar to Letter 163 but it's not Letter 163. I'm not sure where Glenn Beck borrowed these from but I'm guessing this is actually a draft of that letter (or else a draft of a different letter to someone else) because the actual letter is:
:::{{blockquote|But it became The Hobbit in the early 1930s, and was eventually published not because of my own children's enthusiasm (though they liked it well enough), but because I lent it to the then Rev. Mother of Cherwell Edge when she had flu, and it was seen by a former student who was at that time in the office of Allen and Unwin. It was I believe tried out on Rayner Unwin; but for whom when grown up I think I should never have got the Trilogy published.}}
:::Incidentally, the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfAEgzTRQfo&t=5m37s actual text of the first quote is as follows] (correcting the errors above):
:::{{blockquote|I have no confidence in my work, except that forced on me by unexpected success. 'A Great Book', they say and expect, and that alarms me. (My heart is/was in my work, but not on my sleeve, and I have no relish at all for having it stripped bare.}}
:::Hope this helps. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 13:06, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Hi folks, I stumbled across this very old talk on the two quotes above. The second is of course from Tolkien to Auden, but the first is not from a letter.
::::It comes from Tolkien's 1966 interview with Daphne Castell. See https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Glasgow_Herald_(6_August_1966) and New Worlds 50, November 1966.
::::Kind regards,
::::onthetrail from the Guide to Tolkien's Letters. [[User:Onthetrail|Onthetrail]] ([[User talk:Onthetrail|talk]]) 00:41, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

=== Naming standard ===
The naming standards are all over the place. We've got Mr/Mrs and Mr./Mrs. We need consistency, and I propose the latter. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:09, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

:Agree with consistency. I prefer the former but I'm not precious about it. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 17:43, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

::+1 the former (Mr/Mrs): (a) for consistency with ''The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien'' and ''The J.R.R. Tolkien Companion and Guide: Chronology''; (b) "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr. Mr.]" appears to be mostly an American English form, while "Mr" is used both in the US and the UK (if we are to trust WP); (c) simpler page title.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 00:07, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

:::As long as it's consistent, I'll take the other. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 04:12, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

::::I like "Mr/Mrs" too.--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 21:29, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
==Problem with saving==
I am trying to add this entry, but after a security check (and confirmation) it returns me to the article code without saving it.
*[[Letter to Joy Hill|30 October 1967, to Joy Hill]]
[[User:Sage|Sage]] ([[User talk:Sage|talk]]) 08:33, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

== Article name ==

Shouldn't it be 'Letters not published in ''The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien'''? {{user:Éowyn/sig}} 00:09, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

:Done. Shouldn't it be an Index too? [[User:LorenzoCB|LorenzoCB]] ([[User talk:LorenzoCB|talk]]) 08:34, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
::+1 {{user:Éowyn/sig}} 13:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)