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Ered Gorgoroth

2021-04-02T06:46:18Z

The Mouth of Sauron:

{{disambig-more|Gorgoroth|[[Gorgoroth (disambiguation)]]}}
{{location infobox
| name=Ered Gorgoroth
| image=[[File:Peter Xavier Price - Beren crosses Ered Gorgoroth.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Beren crosses Ered Gorgoroth" by [[Peter Xavier Price]]
| pronun={{respell|eh|red}} {{respell|gor|gor-oth}}
| othernames=Mountains of Terror
| location=[[Beleriand]], separating [[Dorthonion]] from [[Nan Dungortheb]]
| type=Mountain range
| description=Tall, spider-haunted peaks
| regions=
| towns=
| inhabitants=[[Spiders]]
| created=
| destroyed=
| events={{FA|450}}: [[Beren]]'s crossing from Dorthonion
}}
The '''Ered Gorgoroth''' or '''Mountains of Terror'''<ref>{{S|Men}}</ref> were a mountain chain in the north of [[Beleriand]].

The Ered Gorgoroth was the southern edge of the highlands of [[Dorthonion]], and separated Dorthonion from Beleriand proper. South of the Gorgoroth lay the unpopulated land of [[Nan Dungortheb]] (the Valley of Dreadful Death).<ref name="Map">{{S|Map}}</ref> The southern wall of the Ered Gorgoroth fell in sheer precipices.<ref>{{S|Beleriand}}</ref>

They were named such by the [[Sindar]] of [[Doriath]] after the [[Spiders|spider]]-creature [[Ungoliant]] made it her temporary home, and spawned many evil spiders there, which wove webs that took away all light, and all the springs were poisoned.<ref>{{S|Flight}}</ref>

The Gorgoroth had no known passes, and even the [[Orcs]] of [[Morgoth]] passed it by. In all of the [[First Age]] [[Beren]] son of [[Barahir]] is said to have passed the mountain range, and he never spoke of this terrible journey,<ref>{{S|Beren}}</ref> though it is said that he fought giant spiders there,<ref>J.R.R. Tolkien, ''The Lord of the Rings'', "Shelob's Lair"</ref> and Beleg was said to cross through the pass of [[Anach]] at the western end of Ered Gorgoroth in his search for [[Turin Turambar]].<ref>{{CH|9}}</ref> It is implied that Shelob may have fled from Ered Gorgoroth as Tolkien states, "There agelong she had dwelt, an evil thing in spider-form, even such as once of old had lived in the Land of the Elves in the West that is now under the Sea, such as Beren fought in the Mountains of Terror in Doriath, and so came to Lúthien upon the green sward amid the hemlocks in the moonlight long ago. How Shelob came there, flying from ruin, no tale tells, for out of the Dark Years few tales have come."<ref>J.R.R. Tolkien, ''The Lord of the Rings'', "Shelob's Lair"</ref>

Like the rest of Beleriand, the Gorgoroth were drowned during the [[War of Wrath]], although the highland of Dorthonion survived as the isle of [[Tol Fuin]].

==Etymology==
*[[Sindarin]]: ''[[ered]]'' + ''[[gorgor]]'' + ''oth''

==Other versions of the legendarium==
The Ered Gorgoroth are in one place in ''[[Beren and Lúthien]]'' referred to as "Gorgorath" apparently in order to rhyme with "path".<ref>{{BL|Beren}}</ref> The variation is also included in the ''Beren and Lúthien'' glossary,<ref>{{BL|Glossary}}</ref> but the reason for the different spelling is not made clear.

{{references}}
[[Category:Beleriand]]
[[Category:Mountain ranges]]
[[Category:Sindarin locations]]
[[de:Ered Gorgoroth]]
[[fr:encyclo/geographie/reliefs/beleriand/ered_gorgoroth]]
[[fi:Ered Gorgoroth]]

Ered Gorgoroth

2021-04-02T06:45:23Z

The Mouth of Sauron:

{{disambig-more|Gorgoroth|[[Gorgoroth (disambiguation)]]}}
{{location infobox
| name=Ered Gorgoroth
| image=[[File:Peter Xavier Price - Beren crosses Ered Gorgoroth.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Beren crosses Ered Gorgoroth" by [[Peter Xavier Price]]
| pronun={{respell|eh|red}} {{respell|gor|gor-oth}}
| othernames=Mountains of Terror
| location=[[Beleriand]], separating [[Dorthonion]] from [[Nan Dungortheb]]
| type=Mountain range
| description=Tall, spider-haunted peaks
| regions=
| towns=
| inhabitants=[[Spiders]]
| created=
| destroyed=
| events={{FA|450}}: [[Beren]]'s crossing from Dorthonion
}}
The '''Ered Gorgoroth''' or '''Mountains of Terror'''<ref>{{S|Men}}</ref> were a mountain chain in the north of [[Beleriand]].

The Ered Gorgoroth was the southern edge of the highlands of [[Dorthonion]], and separated Dorthonion from Beleriand proper. South of the Gorgoroth lay the unpopulated land of [[Nan Dungortheb]] (the Valley of Dreadful Death).<ref name="Map">{{S|Map}}</ref> The southern wall of the Ered Gorgoroth fell in sheer precipices.<ref>{{S|Beleriand}}</ref>

They were named such by the [[Sindar]] of [[Doriath]] after the [[Spiders|spider]]-creature [[Ungoliant]] made it her temporary home, and spawned many evil spiders there, which wove webs that took away all light, and all the springs were poisoned.<ref>{{S|Flight}}</ref>

The Gorgoroth had no known passes, and even the [[Orcs]] of [[Morgoth]] passed it by. In all of the [[First Age]] [[Beren]] son of [[Barahir]] is said to have passed the mountain range, and he never spoke of this terrible journey,<ref>{{S|Beren}}</ref> though it is said that he fought giant spiders there,<ref>J.R.R. Tolkien, ''The Lord of the Rings'', "Shelob's Lair"</ref> and Beleg was said to cross through the pass of [[Anach]] at the western end of Ered Gorgoroth in his search for [[Turin Turambar]].<ref>{{CH|9}}</ref> It is implied that Shelob may have fled from Ered Gorgoroth as Tolkien states, "There agelong she had dwelt, an evil thing in spider-form, even such as once of old had lived in the Land of the Elves in the West that is now under the Sea, such as Beren fought in the Mountains of Terror in Doriath, and so came to Lúthien upon the green sward amid the hemlocks in the moonlight long ago. How Shelob came there, flying from ruin, no tale tells, for out of the Dark Years few tales have come."<ref>J.R.R. Tolkien, ''The Lord of the Rings'', "Shelob's Lair"</ref>
Like the rest of Beleriand, the Gorgoroth were drowned during the [[War of Wrath]], although the highland of Dorthonion survived as the isle of [[Tol Fuin]].

==Etymology==
*[[Sindarin]]: ''[[ered]]'' + ''[[gorgor]]'' + ''oth''

==Other versions of the legendarium==
The Ered Gorgoroth are in one place in ''[[Beren and Lúthien]]'' referred to as "Gorgorath" apparently in order to rhyme with "path".<ref>{{BL|Beren}}</ref> The variation is also included in the ''Beren and Lúthien'' glossary,<ref>{{BL|Glossary}}</ref> but the reason for the different spelling is not made clear.

{{references}}
[[Category:Beleriand]]
[[Category:Mountain ranges]]
[[Category:Sindarin locations]]
[[de:Ered Gorgoroth]]
[[fr:encyclo/geographie/reliefs/beleriand/ered_gorgoroth]]
[[fi:Ered Gorgoroth]]

Ered Gorgoroth

2021-04-02T06:40:19Z

The Mouth of Sauron: Addition of information from Lord of the Rings

{{disambig-more|Gorgoroth|[[Gorgoroth (disambiguation)]]}}
{{location infobox
| name=Ered Gorgoroth
| image=[[File:Peter Xavier Price - Beren crosses Ered Gorgoroth.jpg|250px]]
| caption="Beren crosses Ered Gorgoroth" by [[Peter Xavier Price]]
| pronun={{respell|eh|red}} {{respell|gor|gor-oth}}
| othernames=Mountains of Terror
| location=[[Beleriand]], separating [[Dorthonion]] from [[Nan Dungortheb]]
| type=Mountain range
| description=Tall, spider-haunted peaks
| regions=
| towns=
| inhabitants=[[Spiders]]
| created=
| destroyed=
| events={{FA|450}}: [[Beren]]'s crossing from Dorthonion
}}
The '''Ered Gorgoroth''' or '''Mountains of Terror'''<ref>{{S|Men}}</ref> were a mountain chain in the north of [[Beleriand]].

The Ered Gorgoroth was the southern edge of the highlands of [[Dorthonion]], and separated Dorthonion from Beleriand proper. South of the Gorgoroth lay the unpopulated land of [[Nan Dungortheb]] (the Valley of Dreadful Death).<ref name="Map">{{S|Map}}</ref> The southern wall of the Ered Gorgoroth fell in sheer precipices.<ref>{{S|Beleriand}}</ref>

They were named such by the [[Sindar]] of [[Doriath]] after the [[Spiders|spider]]-creature [[Ungoliant]] made it her temporary home, and spawned many evil spiders there, which wove webs that took away all light, and all the springs were poisoned.<ref>{{S|Flight}}</ref>

The Gorgoroth had no known passes, and even the [[Orcs]] of [[Morgoth]] passed it by. In all of the [[First Age]] [[Beren]] son of [[Barahir]] is said to have passed the mountain range, and he never spoke of this terrible journey,<ref>{{S|Beren}}</ref> though it is said that he fought giant spiders there,<ref>J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, "Shelob's Lair"</ref> and Beleg was said to cross through the pass of [[Anach]] at the western end of Ered Gorgoroth in his search for [[Turin Turambar]].<ref>{{CH|9}}</ref>

Like the rest of Beleriand, the Gorgoroth were drowned during the [[War of Wrath]], although the highland of Dorthonion survived as the isle of [[Tol Fuin]].

==Etymology==
*[[Sindarin]]: ''[[ered]]'' + ''[[gorgor]]'' + ''oth''

==Other versions of the legendarium==
The Ered Gorgoroth are in one place in ''[[Beren and Lúthien]]'' referred to as "Gorgorath" apparently in order to rhyme with "path".<ref>{{BL|Beren}}</ref> The variation is also included in the ''Beren and Lúthien'' glossary,<ref>{{BL|Glossary}}</ref> but the reason for the different spelling is not made clear.

{{references}}
[[Category:Beleriand]]
[[Category:Mountain ranges]]
[[Category:Sindarin locations]]
[[de:Ered Gorgoroth]]
[[fr:encyclo/geographie/reliefs/beleriand/ered_gorgoroth]]
[[fi:Ered Gorgoroth]]

Forums:When does the Children of Hurin start?

2017-12-22T18:38:19Z

The Mouth of Sauron: When do we start counting the First Age years?

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I am currently developing a timeline for major events in the lore, however I am having a hard time with the Children of Hurin. I know it takes place in the fifth century F.A., my problem is when does the First Age start and when do we start counting to then add the Children of Hurin to the mix? I know the First Age is supposed to be the longest of the ages, however if it starts right with the Years of the Sun, then it would only last a few hundred years before the Second Age.Since the Elves are in the Children of Hurin, I know we can safely say it starts after the awakening of the Elves and Men, however it is still ambiguous, because we don't even know if the Awakening took place before or at the start of the First Age.So I am slightly confused as to when we should start counting the First Age. I know Tolkien Gateway starts with the first Sunrise of the Years of the Sun, but I am not sure this entirely works.What are your thoughts?