Constructive advice gratefully received.
Edit on the Morgai page
Welcome to Tolkien Gateway. Thank you for your interest in improving the content on Tolkien Gateway. Your attempt at cleaning up the Morgai page and your adding of an infobox was a very good start. Since you asked for constructive advice, I recommend to you to read through the Help:References page and to check if you have access to a 50th anniversary edition of LOTR or to an edition with compatible page numbers. I did some work on the references on the Morgai page to add page numbers so that it is easier for readers who want to check the sources to find the sentences that contain the information. I do not know if you have access to The Lord of the Ring's - A Reader's Companion, which cites from J.R.R. Tolkien's Unfinished Index for LOTR. The entry for Morgai there did not mention that it was a Sindarin name, only the entry in J.R.R. Tolkien's Words, Phrases and Passages in The Lord of the Rings mentions that. We usually try to have information about the language that a name is in, its translation and the components. I recommend eldamo.org as a high quality source for the etymology, which contains references that point to the sources in words written by J.R.R. Tolkien or edited by Christopher Tolkien. It also helped me to find the source for the second element in the name Morgai. When I edit a page, which is not too long, I try to go through the sources to double-check if any information on the page is incorrect. When I did that it seemed that the path does not seem to go on to Durthang, but that a road came down to Durthang and met the path at a point further east on the way to the Isenmouthe. --Akhôrahil (talk) 15:46, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks so much!! Bunt (talk) 06:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Edit on the East Road page
You did well in spotting the unnecessary duplicate heading for the references and the unnecessary references tag and deleting them. However, either the cleanup tag should not have been deleted or the tag should have been replaced by a sources tag, instead of making it look like that the page does not need more work. There are two source tags in the first two paragraphs of the history section and some other statements also do not have any references that support those statements. In addition, reference no. 9 does not have a page number of a 50th anniversary edition. If you look at the dicussion page of the East Road page, you will see that I raised an issue concerning the history of the road (if it was built by dwarves) where I would appreciate some feedback from other users. I also raised the issue on Tolkien Gateway's discord channel and would appreciate some feedback there. --Akhôrahil (talk) 13:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- More good feedback, thanks. Bunt (talk) 09:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Edits on the Houses of the Dead, Bill the Pony and Aldburg pages
Please be careful not to delete statements or when changing statements or moving the placement of references in future edits. You deleted the information on the Houses of the Dead page and its accompanying reference that the Hill of Guard was the hill on which Minas Tirith was built. In addition, you deleted the information that Rath Dínen means Silent Street in Sindarin from the text, so that readers who are not familiar that Rath Dínen was a street and what the name means, miss some of the context unless they make the effort to click on Rath Dínen and also read the Rath Dínen page. You changed the statement that Éomund claimed descent from Eofor to that Éomund was a descendant of Eofor, thus making it sound like a fact instead of just a claim. In addition, you moved a reference so that this statement did not have a reference anymore. --Akhôrahil (talk) 14:22, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback, Akhôrahil, which helps me learn. I thought I'd reply so-as to test my thinking as
- I edit. My sense is that I have erred on the side of letting main pages do the work of embellishing things that are referenced on another topic page.
- Houses of the Dead: I deleted a sentence that was almost 50 words long, to replace it with a shorter version. Deleting mention of Minas Tirith being built on Hill of Guard was based on letting the Minas Tirith page do that work. This was the same reasoning for deleting the meaning of Rath Dinen, which has it's own page. I suppose, what's the point of linking if content is duplicated across pages? I was taken, too, by the fact that in the same paragraph, Mindolluin is mentioned but no similar meaning of the Sindarin is given. On reflection, though, I can see how the meaning 'silent street' adds to the ambience of the articles subject material.
- Éomund in Aldburg: I made the change to the definite based on the page for Éomund, which provides the following referenced text: "Éomund was a descendant of Eofor..." - same reference used for both. I took a punt on this being correct, being the main page for Éomund details, rather than checking the source while I'm travelling. Lesson learned there. It would seem that between these pages there is discord needing attn, which I'll look into when home if someone doesn't sooner. The reference move was sloppy on my part and an oversight; thanks.
- Thanks again for your feedback. I appreciate how you and other members do so respectfully! Bunt (talk) 21:21, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Edits on the Morwen Steelsheen page
I appreciate your edit on random page and that you inted to improve the page. It would be great if you could not just rephrase existing content, but also compare the sources and check if the information added by you or already on the page is accurate. I reviewed the information and made corrections and added missing references. Your insertion of (misspelled) "nobility" was not included in the sources, which only mention "grace and pride". Please make sure that all statements in a sentence are supported by references and if several statements in a sentence are supported by different references that it is indicated which reference supports which statement. --Akhôrahil (talk) 09:57, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. Bunt (talk) 13:22, 6 August 2025 (UTC)